Jon Erdmann wrote:
Back before Christmas, one of our granddaughters had their Christmas program at Easthaven Baptist Church here in Kalispell. We had a nice backdrop set up for just the occasion, all I had with me was my new Samsung S23 Ultra 5G, which I think does a great job. Back before I got the Samsung S23 Ultra.. I was always packing my other cameras along... the weight can be a problem with the lenses for my Canons, not so much with my Fuji X-T2.
I swear your granddaughter just walked out of somewhere here in Wasilla. She would fit in with the Alaska style no problem. Great shot. She would be dressed somewhere between Alaska casual and semi-formal. Great grab there.
Jon Erdmann wrote:
Back before Christmas, one of our granddaughters had their Christmas program at Easthaven Baptist Church here in Kalispell. We had a nice backdrop set up for just the occasion, all I had with me was my new Samsung S23 Ultra 5G, which I think does a great job. Back before I got the Samsung S23 Ultra.. I was always packing my other cameras along... the weight can be a problem with the lenses for my Canons, not so much with my Fuji X-T2.
Very nice photo Jon! I think that my next phone will be the S23 Ultra. I have the S20 Ultra presently.
I would have thought this as well...but, to be frank, cell phone photography has gotten much much better; and it's always with you. The lenses are good, the processing great. The sensor...well that part isn't as great. Zoom is also not the highlight of cell phones. That all being said, most photographic opportunities just present themselves. They don't provide much advance warning. For much photography, that makes the phone a great choice. I shoot much on cell phones despite having (and knowing how to use) professional equipment.
I would have thought myself not the one to say this, but when push comes to shove, it works relatively well.
Wingpilot wrote:
I swear your granddaughter just walked out of somewhere here in Wasilla. She would fit in with the Alaska style no problem. Great shot. She would be dressed somewhere between Alaska casual and semi-formal. Great grab there.
IT's funny that she has relatives on her dad's side up there in Alaska, she is just a joy to have around, and sure is a poppa's girl.
This white-tailed doe, just stood there like she had nothing to fear... another photo taken with my Samsung S23 Ulta, using the 10x zoom.
srt101fan wrote:
My question was really directed at the folks who insist that "regular" cameras are better than cellphone cameras. Your photo is great; I don't think an experienced photographer with a professional camera could have done much better!
While there is no doubt that cellphone cameras have come a long way and can produce excellent images, the ability to experiment with a fully adjustable (aperture, shutter speed and ISO) CAMERA can produce images otherwise not possible with a cellphone. I give cellphone cameras an "A" for convenience and image quality and traditional cameras an "A+" for image quality, creativity and FUN!
My opinion ONLY. Everyone do whatever works for you.
EJMcD wrote:
While there is no doubt that cellphone cameras have come a long way and can produce excellent images, the ability to experiment with a fully adjustable (aperture, shutter speed and ISO) CAMERA can produce images otherwise not possible with a cellphone. I give cellphone cameras an "A" for convenience and image quality and traditional cameras an "A+" for image quality, creativity and FUN!
My opinion ONLY. Everyone do whatever works for you.
A camera is a tool, just like a stove... you don't ask the chef what kind of stove he used. If a quality image is produced with a cellphone so be it, it's all in how you use it. I realize that there a premadona photographers out there that will never give in to the use of cellphone photography. If you want to carry all that extra baggage weight, be my guest. I still pack my Canon 7D Mark II and 5D Mark IV in my vehicle for those long trips where BIF photography will happen or those far off wildlife shots that I need my 150-600mm lens for the reach. But if I don't have to swing the weight, I won't. If I took one photo with my high grade DSLR camera, and my cellphone and put them side by side, I dought very seriously you could tell the difference... Just a thought.
[quote=EJMcD]While there is no doubt that cellphone cameras have come a long way and can produce excellent images, the ability to experiment with a fully adjustable (aperture, shutter speed and ISO) CAMERA can produce images otherwise not possible with a cellphone. I give cellphone cameras an "A" for convenience and image quality and traditional cameras an "A+" for image quality, creativity and FUN!]
There are apps like Beastcam, Procam, and Moment. That open up the phone cameras manual capabilities to give you full manual control. While the internal camera is good enough to capture an incredible image in auto, it is nice to know that you do have the choice of full control (aperture, ISO, Shutterspeed, White Balance, etc.) If you’ve been sticking to the internal camera I can see how those thoughts might apply, but you may enjoy adding a camera app that gives you full override control to see what the phone if fully capable of.
Jon Erdmann wrote:
A camera is a tool, just like a stove... you don't ask the chef what kind of stove he used. If a quality image is produced with a cellphone so be it, it's all in how you use it. I realize that there a premadona photographers out there that will never give in to the use of cellphone photography. If you want to carry all that extra baggage weight, be my guest. I still pack my Canon 7D Mark II and 5D Mark IV in my vehicle for those long trips where BIF photography will happen or those far off wildlife shots that I need my 150-600mm lens for the reach. But if I don't have to swing the weight, I won't. If I took one photo with my high grade DSLR camera, and my cellphone and put them side by side, I dought very seriously you could tell the difference... Just a thought.
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I understand your opinion but I see things differently. Everyone should enjoy doing photography THEIR way. You do you and I'll do me and we're both right.
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EJMcD wrote:
While there is no doubt that cellphone cameras have come a long way and can produce excellent images, the ability to experiment with a fully adjustable (aperture, shutter speed and ISO) CAMERA can produce images otherwise not possible with a cellphone. I give cellphone cameras an "A" for convenience and image quality and traditional cameras an "A+" for image quality, creativity and FUN!]
There are apps like Beastcam, Procam, and Moment. That open up the phone cameras manual capabilities to give you full manual control. While the internal camera is good enough to capture an incredible image in auto, it is nice to know that you do have the choice of full control (aperture, ISO, Shutterspeed, White Balance, etc.) If you’ve been sticking to the internal camera I can see how those thoughts might apply, but you may enjoy adding a camera app that gives you full override control to see what the phone if fully capable of.
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See my previous post and enjoy photography any way you choose to do it.
EJMcD wrote:
I understand your opinion but I see things differently. Everyone should enjoy doing photography THEIR way. You do you and I'll do me and we're both right.
I have a constant companion in my smartphone. It's my pocket multi-purpose media manager. I also keep Swiss Army knives in strategic locations such as "that catch-all drawer in the kitchen," my car glovebox, and my desk drawer.
I have a backpack full of camera gear I use for deliberative, intentional, serious photography and video projects. And I have a toolbox full of dedicated wrenches, screw drivers, hammers, pliers...
Sometimes I need to write an essay on the computer. Sometimes I need to text my wife to meet me for dinner...
It is always about the use case.
Well now it's the previous to my previous.
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