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Jan 23, 2024 09:07:36   #
IzzyKap Loc: Rockville, MD
 
I am experiencing a fairly slow display of images in a grid format in the Library modules of LrC. I am using the latest version of LrC (13.1) on iMac with fully updated 13.6.3 iOS. I do have a large catalog (~ 100K images) on an external drive. Images are within folders and folder images display slowly. I did Optimize the catalog, but display of images is still slower than I would expect. I think that there is a setting in LrC in terms how fast previews of images appear in the grid format, but I wasn't able to locate it. Any suggestions? Thank you.

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Jan 23, 2024 09:18:42   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
IzzyKap wrote:
I am experiencing a fairly slow display of images in a grid format in the Library modules of LrC. I am using the latest version of LrC (13.1) on iMac with fully updated 13.6.3 iOS. I do have a large catalog (~ 100K images) on an external drive. Images are within folders and folder images display slowly. I did Optimize the catalog, but display of images is still slower than I would expect. I think that there is a setting in LrC in terms how fast previews of images appear in the grid format, but I wasn't able to locate it. Any suggestions? Thank you.
I am experiencing a fairly slow display of images ... (show quote)


What is the status of your previews? Have you just made some recent changes, in the LR catalog / software and / or migrated to a new computer?

LR Classic is a 'database', a database of the locations of your original image files, LR's internal versions of those image files (aka previews) and your edit instructions.

"Best Practices" are to store your LR catalog on the fastest disk on your system. The previews are in the many subfolders of your LRCAT location. If you migrated to new equipment or changed the location of your LRCAT, did you bring the preview files along with the LRCAT? If applicable and 'no', well, that would cause the delay as LR has to dynamically build the previews for the Grid view for each image found in the catalog.

Other issues may be involved. More relevant technical details are needed for better guesses at your situation.

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Jan 23, 2024 12:10:18   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
Also, how long has it been since you ran your computer's cleanup and "housekeeping" apps? The caches could be full, and the whole thing loaded with lots of left over crud it has to run through before doing anything new.
How long since you ran your anti-malware and antivirus software - not having active care on, actually run the software?

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Jan 24, 2024 08:08:54   #
IzzyKap Loc: Rockville, MD
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
What is the status of your previews? Have you just made some recent changes, in the LR catalog / software and / or migrated to a new computer?

LR Classic is a 'database', a database of the locations of your original image files, LR's internal versions of those image files (aka previews) and your edit instructions.

"Best Practices" are to store your LR catalog on the fastest disk on your system. The previews are in the many subfolders of your LRCAT location. If you migrated to new equipment or changed the location of your LRCAT, did you bring the preview files along with the LRCAT? If applicable and 'no', well, that would cause the delay as LR has to dynamically build the previews for the Grid view for each image found in the catalog.

Other issues may be involved. More relevant technical details are needed for better guesses at your situation.
What is the status of your previews? Have you just... (show quote)


Thank you. I haven't changed computers, catalog locations, or hard drives. I think that it has something to do with the choice of building previews. I think that it dates back to the PS 2024 upgrade when I was making a selection regarding the speed vs the size of the previews. I have changed it from my previous setting which probably resulted in the perceived slowdown. I wasn't able to find this setting to change it back.

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Jan 24, 2024 08:10:34   #
IzzyKap Loc: Rockville, MD
 
robertjerl wrote:
Also, how long has it been since you ran your computer's cleanup and "housekeeping" apps? The caches could be full, and the whole thing loaded with lots of left over crud it has to run through before doing anything new.
How long since you ran your anti-malware and antivirus software - not having active care on, actually run the software?


I did all the computer housekeeping and malware check, as I routinely do. I think that it has something to do with the choice of building previews. I think that it dates back to the PS 2024 upgrade when I was making a selection regarding the speed vs the size of the previews. I have changed it from my previous setting which probably resulted in the perceived slowdown. I wasn't able to find this setting to change it back. Thank you.

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Jan 24, 2024 09:38:23   #
tcthome Loc: NJ
 
IzzyKap wrote:
I am experiencing a fairly slow display of images in a grid format in the Library modules of LrC. I am using the latest version of LrC (13.1) on iMac with fully updated 13.6.3 iOS. I do have a large catalog (~ 100K images) on an external drive. Images are within folders and folder images display slowly. I did Optimize the catalog, but display of images is still slower than I would expect. I think that there is a setting in LrC in terms how fast previews of images appear in the grid format, but I wasn't able to locate it. Any suggestions? Thank you.
I am experiencing a fairly slow display of images ... (show quote)


You can try going clearing the cache in LR.

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Jan 24, 2024 10:01:33   #
IzzyKap Loc: Rockville, MD
 
IzzyKap wrote:
Thank you. I haven't changed computers, catalog locations, or hard drives. I think that it has something to do with the choice of building previews. I think that it dates back to the PS 2024 upgrade when I was making a selection regarding the speed vs the size of the previews. I have changed it from my previous setting which probably resulted in the perceived slowdown. I wasn't able to find this setting to change it back.


Sorry, I meant a LrC, not PD update.

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Jan 24, 2024 10:01:54   #
IzzyKap Loc: Rockville, MD
 
IzzyKap wrote:
I did all the computer housekeeping and malware check, as I routinely do. I think that it has something to do with the choice of building previews. I think that it dates back to the PS 2024 upgrade when I was making a selection regarding the speed vs the size of the previews. I have changed it from my previous setting which probably resulted in the perceived slowdown. I wasn't able to find this setting to change it back. Thank you.



Sorry, I meant a LrC, not PD update.

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Jan 24, 2024 10:37:40   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
IzzyKap wrote:
I did all the computer housekeeping and malware check, as I routinely do. I think that it has something to do with the choice of building previews. I think that it dates back to the PS 2024 upgrade when I was making a selection regarding the speed vs the size of the previews. I have changed it from my previous setting which probably resulted in the perceived slowdown. I wasn't able to find this setting to change it back. Thank you.


Get back to us on what settings you are using. Assuming my old LR6 has the same options in the same positions, check Edit / Catalog Settings / File Handling. I use the Standard Preview size at 1440 pixels. I like a Medium Preview quality. Also, I "discard" my 1:1 previews after 1-week, a process that occurs when the LRCAT back-up runs, also something I limit to just once a week.

The other place to look for preview settings are your Import settings. Here, you can create several different types and formats of previews. On my older computer and older software, I create only "Minimal" previews at import, these being the size to support the Grid view and a full-screen view of the image.

If you find the delay ongoing and annoying, consider letting your computer run over night and 'select all' images in the entire catalog and then use Library / Previews / Build Standard Sized Previews. Let the process run overnight, it will probably finish for your 100K by the next morning.

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Jan 24, 2024 13:47:22   #
BobHartung Loc: Bettendorf, IA
 
IzzyKap wrote:
I am experiencing a fairly slow display of images in a grid format in the Library modules of LrC. I am using the latest version of LrC (13.1) on iMac with fully updated 13.6.3 iOS. I do have a large catalog (~ 100K images) on an external drive. Images are within folders and folder images display slowly. I did Optimize the catalog, but display of images is still slower than I would expect. I think that there is a setting in LrC in terms how fast previews of images appear in the grid format, but I wasn't able to locate it. Any suggestions? Thank you.
I am experiencing a fairly slow display of images ... (show quote)


a. That is a very large catalog.
b. What usb generation are you using? the USB speed could be part of the problem.
c. Is the external drive spinning disks or SSD?

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Jan 24, 2024 14:10:31   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
IzzyKap wrote:
I did all the computer housekeeping and malware check, as I routinely do. I think that it has something to do with the choice of building previews. I think that it dates back to the PS 2024 upgrade when I was making a selection regarding the speed vs the size of the previews. I have changed it from my previous setting which probably resulted in the perceived slowdown. I wasn't able to find this setting to change it back. Thank you.


Do you have it set for 1:1 previews or Smart Previews. 1:1 are bigger files but you can zoom in more to edit details.

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Jan 25, 2024 14:55:00   #
IzzyKap Loc: Rockville, MD
 
BobHartung wrote:
a. That is a very large catalog.
b. What usb generation are you using? the USB speed could be part of the problem.
c. Is the external drive spinning disks or SSD?


All good points, but it shouldn’t be related to that because it’s a recent slow down without any changes in your comments. I think that it was related to a change in a preview size section. I’ve changed to standard size previews and performance did improve. Thank you.

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Jan 25, 2024 14:56:26   #
IzzyKap Loc: Rockville, MD
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Get back to us on what settings you are using. Assuming my old LR6 has the same options in the same positions, check Edit / Catalog Settings / File Handling. I use the Standard Preview size at 1440 pixels. I like a Medium Preview quality. Also, I "discard" my 1:1 previews after 1-week, a process that occurs when the LRCAT back-up runs, also something I limit to just once a week.

The other place to look for preview settings are your Import settings. Here, you can create several different types and formats of previews. On my older computer and older software, I create only "Minimal" previews at import, these being the size to support the Grid view and a full-screen view of the image.

If you find the delay ongoing and annoying, consider letting your computer run over night and 'select all' images in the entire catalog and then use Library / Previews / Build Standard Sized Previews. Let the process run overnight, it will probably finish for your 100K by the next morning.
Get back to us on what settings you are using. Ass... (show quote)


I did build Standard Size previews and it did improve the performance. Thank you.

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