How do you approach composition in your photography?
Jan 21, 2024 13:57:06 #
R.G. wrote:
Where composition is concerned, the ultimate guide... (show quote)
Originally, in the distant past, didn't composition and work results precede "rules"?
Weren't the "rules" formulated to attempt to reduce the work results to a concept?
Jan 21, 2024 14:01:00 #
dustie wrote:
Originally, in the distant past, didn't composition and work results precede "rules"?
Weren't the "rules" formulated to attempt to reduce the work results to a concept?
Weren't the "rules" formulated to attempt to reduce the work results to a concept?
You forced be to look into the distant past, and it was scary
But I do believe you are correct.
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Jan 21, 2024 14:04:41 #
dustie wrote:
.... Weren't the "rules" formulated to attempt to reduce the work results to a concept?
No doubt the inspiration for the rules came from people walking the walk and trailblazing their own learning curve. They aren't the people who need the rules. The people who need them are the ones who need guidance. I'll stick with my suggestion that the rules are to provide guidance to those who don't yet have their own inner guide.
Jan 21, 2024 14:06:59 #
Think about this, folks!
So-called rules, standards, methods, approaches, schools of thought, and attitudes about ART are not LAWS and are punishable if violated, disputed, or ignored.
Most people are not stupid. They can be exposed to all sorts of education, training, various schools of thought, different opinions, methodologies, and attitudes and, at the end of the day, make up their own minds and take their own paths.
Telling one's own thoughts, or approach to any issue is not always an attempt at indoctrination.
Some of the folks on this forum argue for the sake of arguing and launch unnecessary personal attacks that accomplish nothing more than resentment.
If there was any REAL moderation here, some of these threads woud be closed down as soon as they begin to "go south"! Perhaps that would encourage folks to come up with some creative ideas and subjects rather than kicking the proverbial dead horse.
Sadly, some of the childish and troll-like behavior does get on one's nerves.
I have a coping mechanism to deal with philsosphies and techniques I disagree with. I have had several occasions where I paid good money, spent valuable time, and traveled a good distac to attend a class, convention, seminar, or workshop. At the end of the class, I considered the entire thing a misadventure, a waste of time and money- a FLOP! Usually, there were several othere attendees, out in the lobby, grumbling and complaining while I was smiling. My classmate questions my upbeat attitude. I simply confessed that I learned two important things- what techniques NOT to apply and how NOT to present a seminar!
We all can learn from our mistakes and those of others. After a while, as you age and grow, you will develop a unique neurological mechanism. You can retain whatever information you hear or read tha you deem valid, or automatically activate your "nonsense" switch which allows it to go in one ear and out of the other!
So-called rules, standards, methods, approaches, schools of thought, and attitudes about ART are not LAWS and are punishable if violated, disputed, or ignored.
Most people are not stupid. They can be exposed to all sorts of education, training, various schools of thought, different opinions, methodologies, and attitudes and, at the end of the day, make up their own minds and take their own paths.
Telling one's own thoughts, or approach to any issue is not always an attempt at indoctrination.
Some of the folks on this forum argue for the sake of arguing and launch unnecessary personal attacks that accomplish nothing more than resentment.
If there was any REAL moderation here, some of these threads woud be closed down as soon as they begin to "go south"! Perhaps that would encourage folks to come up with some creative ideas and subjects rather than kicking the proverbial dead horse.
Sadly, some of the childish and troll-like behavior does get on one's nerves.
I have a coping mechanism to deal with philsosphies and techniques I disagree with. I have had several occasions where I paid good money, spent valuable time, and traveled a good distac to attend a class, convention, seminar, or workshop. At the end of the class, I considered the entire thing a misadventure, a waste of time and money- a FLOP! Usually, there were several othere attendees, out in the lobby, grumbling and complaining while I was smiling. My classmate questions my upbeat attitude. I simply confessed that I learned two important things- what techniques NOT to apply and how NOT to present a seminar!
We all can learn from our mistakes and those of others. After a while, as you age and grow, you will develop a unique neurological mechanism. You can retain whatever information you hear or read tha you deem valid, or automatically activate your "nonsense" switch which allows it to go in one ear and out of the other!
Jan 21, 2024 14:10:52 #
R.G. wrote:
No doubt the inspiration for the rules came from people walking the walk and trailblazing their own learning curve. They aren't the people who need the rules. The people who need them are the ones who need guidance. I'll stick with my suggestion that the rules are to provide guidance to those who don't yet have their own inner guide.
Not questioning the point of your suggestion, hope you didn't take it that way.
Just looking at it from the which was first, the chicken or the egg perspective, I guess.
Jan 21, 2024 14:22:43 #
dustie wrote:
Not questioning the point of your suggestion, hope you didn't take it that way.
Just looking at it from the which was first, the chicken or the egg perspective, I guess.
Just looking at it from the which was first, the chicken or the egg perspective, I guess.
It goes back to the era of painting. Artists found out what worked and what didn't and others distilled those findings into learnable guidelines.
Jan 21, 2024 14:23:41 #
E.L.. Shapiro wrote:
..... automatically activate your "nonsense" switch which allows it to go in one ear and out of the other!
Damn. I activated mine waaaaay too early
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Jan 21, 2024 18:31:10 #
srt101fan wrote:
You mean... you mean .... a Presentation Triangle! 😱
Yes, I Do... Ever seen a strictly architectural click in mono with straight lines and angles with maybe a gray complimentary mat with a WIDE, Flowery, heavy wooden frame ?
Jan 21, 2024 19:13:47 #
R.G. wrote:
It goes back to the era of painting. Artists found out what worked and what didn't and others distilled those findings into learnable guidelines.
EXACTLY!!!
Research and studies of the paintings The Old Masters revealed the concept of what no call aspect ratio, proportion, useof space and dynamic symmetry was aroud way before the invention of photograhy or cinematography. That is where may of the rules and foundational aesthetics came from.
If you REALLY want to getting or improve and fully and fully understand and appreciate the POWER OF composition, there is a lot of great theory and concepts to consider. It goes way beyond the rule of thirds, etc. You don't need any expensive equipment, just your eyes and an open mind.
Besides, it's fun and you begin to see things differetly when you are shooting and when you analyze an image.
Jan 21, 2024 19:31:02 #
R.G. wrote:
Damn. I activated mine waaaaay too early .
.I am upgrading mine. Scraping the old clunky relay and replacing it with the latest sold-state circuitry- like the lates Optical Switch that handle trillions of operations per second. I'm going to need it for this forum!
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Jan 21, 2024 23:10:19 #
R.G. wrote:
Where composition is concerned, the ultimate guide... (show quote)
Amen. Perfect. Concise and accurate.
Too bad its landed on page eleven :-(
(Not denying some earlier decent stuff.)
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