Ugly Hedgehog - Photography Forum
Home Active Topics Newest Pictures Search Login Register
Main Photography Discussion
Latest rumored specs for the coming Canon R1 flagship camera. Are you Canon users interested to get this?
Page <prev 2 of 2
Jan 21, 2024 14:06:27   #
BebuLamar
 
It doesn't have a mechanical shutter nor global shutter similar to that of the Nikon Z8 and Z9.

Reply
Jan 21, 2024 20:22:42   #
Thomas902 Loc: Washington DC
 
"Latest rumored specs for the..." Uncorroborated rumors abound in a sea of "Vendor Hype"...
a.k.a. better known as hearsay in a court of law and typically not admissible as evidence since it is impossible to establish credibility... however as such they are absolutely stellar for swaying the naive...

Commercial Shooters typically gravitate toward independent testing by those who don't have a vested interest in the results. To this end I believe my fellow UHH members might be interested in DxOMark's Camera Sensor scoring. Disclaimer: I shoot Nikon and have since 1973...

The DXOMARK scores in the rankings below reflect the device’s performance and the quality of the user experience. These scores, trusted by the industry, are backed up by exhaustive protocols that gather hundreds of measurements run in DXOMARK’s state-of-the-art laboratories.

DXOMARK Camera sensor rankings follow... (The first Orange Bar shows the individual sensor's DXOMARK score)
Please Note: No BIF or Fashion Models were harmed in these test


(Download)


(Download)


(Download)


(Download)


(Download)

Reply
Jan 22, 2024 11:17:34   #
gwilliams6
 
imagextrordinair wrote:
Most important is the speed of the sensor (500 times faster than Nikon and Sony) and the sync speed for flash of 1250! I like the 30 mpx size, it is the perfect file size.


FYI, the global shutter sensor Sony A9III would be faster than ANY stacked sensor from Canon, Nikon, Sony, with instant full sensor readout, flash sync speed up to 1/80,000 second, just the facts. No stacked sensor R1 can attain what a true global shutter can attain in sensor speed, just physics. The R1 stacked sensor will be very fast, but wont be 500 times faster than any Sony, sorry.

Cheers and best to you.

Reply
 
 
Jan 22, 2024 11:24:38   #
gwilliams6
 
Thomas902 wrote:
"Latest rumored specs for the..." Uncorroborated rumors abound in a sea of "Vendor Hype"...
a.k.a. better known as hearsay in a court of law and typically not admissible as evidence since it is impossible to establish credibility... however as such they are absolutely stellar for swaying the naive...

Commercial Shooters typically gravitate toward independent testing by those who don't have a vested interest in the results. To this end I believe my fellow UHH members might be interested in DxOMark's Camera Sensor scoring. Disclaimer: I shoot Nikon and have since 1973...

The DXOMARK scores in the rankings below reflect the device’s performance and the quality of the user experience. These scores, trusted by the industry, are backed up by exhaustive protocols that gather hundreds of measurements run in DXOMARK’s state-of-the-art laboratories.

DXOMARK Camera sensor rankings follow... (The first Orange Bar shows the individual sensor's DXOMARK score)
Please Note: No BIF or Fashion Models were harmed in these test
i "Latest rumored specs for the... /i "... (show quote)


As a longtime award-winning pro of over 50 years in the business and as also a longtime Professor of Photography at a state university, with my Master's Degree in Digital Photography, I respect DXO, but their final numbers have a flaw.

You have to understand that some of DXO's evaluations whether or not a camera is good for a particular type of photography are SUBJECTIVE and NOT independently objective test numbers. And these subjective results are factored into their final numbers for a camera.

Combining objective numbers from MTF-standard sharpness test numbers and subjective performance area evaluation numbers for their final numbers, that is the flaw in their ratings, sorry.

Cheers and best to you.

Reply
Jan 22, 2024 13:31:14   #
gwilliams6
 
BebuLamar wrote:
It doesn't have a mechanical shutter nor global shutter similar to that of the Nikon Z8 and Z9.


The facts. The Nikon Z8, and Z9 have the same stacked sensor, they do not have global shutters. The only fullframe mirrorless camera with a global shutter is the new Sony A9III.

Cheers

Reply
Jan 23, 2024 06:19:14   #
BebuLamar
 
gwilliams6 wrote:
The facts. The Nikon Z8, and Z9 have the same stacked sensor, they do not have global shutters. The only fullframe mirrorless camera with a global shutter is the new Sony A9III.

Cheers


It seems to me the R1 has the speed but that's about all. If you don't need speed then the R5 is better.

Reply
Jan 23, 2024 11:08:29   #
gwilliams6
 
A good R1 overview from Tony Northrup. This one is actually informative about a few new items ,and watchable .

Tony Northrup: "Canon R1 SPECS!! Sony ZV-E10 II also leaked but..."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4qWJ0Z3qmc&fbclid=IwAR1WJRXcCq0eRg4MsfkTTletbn5etCHP3yXS6pAMKi8899m4zQ98Bq6S8UE

My take, the R1 takes a different route that the global shutter Sony A9III. If the specs are true it will be a superb camera for the Summer Olympics and sports and action shooters.

The R1 will have a very fast stacked sensor ,short of the sensor speed of the global shutter of the A9III, but very fast with good dynamic range and dual gain.

If there had been no Sony A9III, Canon's hype that the R1 would have been "the camera to rule them all" would have been closer to true. But at 30mp, the R1 is not the 45mp of the R5, the 45mp of the Nikon Z9/Z8, the 50mp of the Sony A1, or the 61mp of the Sony A7RV.

Cheers and best to you all.

Reply
Page <prev 2 of 2
If you want to reply, then register here. Registration is free and your account is created instantly, so you can post right away.
Main Photography Discussion
UglyHedgehog.com - Forum
Copyright 2011-2024 Ugly Hedgehog, Inc.