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Earth Is An Oil-Producing Machine β€” We're Not Running Out
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Jan 20, 2024 18:34:16   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
sourdough58 wrote:
..."Thanks to investment into supercomputers, robotics and the use of chemicals to extract the maximum from available reservoirs, the accessible oil and gas reserves will almost double by 2050,"...

... information backs up the idea that Earth is actually an oil-producing machine. We call energy sources such as crude oil and natural gas fossil fuels based on the assumption that they are the products of decaying organisms, maybe even dinosaurs themselves. But the label is a misnomer. Research from the last decade found that hydrocarbons are synthesized abiotically....
..."Thanks to investment into supercomputers,... (show quote)


I would not be surprised to find that oil is still being produced within the earth. I would be very surprised to find that it is being produced at a sustainable rate to fuel our growing demand.

I believe strongly that alternative energy sources are necessary to keep us going at our accustomed level. And I welcome the shift from fossil energy sources to other sources. It will not mean we stop pumping oil. It is used for too many other things besides fuel used to produce energy.

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Jan 20, 2024 19:54:05   #
frankco Loc: Colorado
 
Those oil lobbyists earn their money

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Jan 21, 2024 05:09:02   #
rwww80a Loc: Hampton, NH
 
Portland, and Hampton flooded last week and it is only 2024. Wait till 2050 or 2300 and see how many more.

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Jan 21, 2024 05:49:11   #
Ollieboy
 
sourdough58 wrote:
I would suggest it is only "old news" for those that saw it when it first came out. As for your comments on climate change, If not for climate change the North American continent would still be covered in a huge glacier 1 mile deep that as it melted and moved along slowly formed our mountains and lakes. all without the help of hair spray and gas powered cars and trucks.


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Jan 21, 2024 07:46:22   #
Morry Loc: Palm Springs, CA
 
sourdough58 wrote:
Earth Is An Oil-Producing Machine β€” We're Not Running Out

KERRY JACKSON
05:39 PM ET 11/04/2015
Ever since M. King Hubbert in the 1950s convinced a lot of people with his "peak oil" theory that production would collapse and we'd eventually exhaust our crude supplies, the clock has been running. And running. And it will continue to run for some time, as technology and new discoveries show that there's still an ocean of oil under our feet.

Engineering and Technology Magazine reported this week that BP β€” the company that once wanted to be known as "Beyond Petroleum" rather than "British Petroleum" β€” is saying "the world is no longer at risk of running out of resources."

"Thanks to investment into supercomputers, robotics and the use of chemicals to extract the maximum from available reservoirs, the accessible oil and gas reserves will almost double by 2050," Engineering and Technology said.

A BP official told the magazine that "energy resources are plentiful. Concerns over running out of oil and gas have disappeared."

Things are so good, in fact, that Engineering and Technology says "with the use of the innovative technologies, available fossil fuel resources could increase from the current 2.9 trillion barrels of oil equivalent to 4.8 trillion by 2050, which is almost twice as much as the projected global demand." That number could even reach 7.5 trillion barrels if technology and exploration techniques advance even faster.

This information backs up the idea that Earth is actually an oil-producing machine. We call energy sources such as crude oil and natural gas fossil fuels based on the assumption that they are the products of decaying organisms, maybe even dinosaurs themselves. But the label is a misnomer. Research from the last decade found that hydrocarbons are synthesized abiotically.

In other words, as Science magazine has reported, the "data imply that hydrocarbons are produced chemically" from carbon found in Earth's mantle. Nature magazine calls the product of this process an "unexpected bounty " of "natural gas and the building blocks of oil products."

So don't feel guilty about exploiting this "bounty." There seems to be plenty to go around β€” and there will probably still be a lot left when technology, not hurried by government mandates and subsidies but guided by market forces, produces practical and affordable renewable energy.

But for now, enjoy our cheap, abundant and efficient "fossil" fuels.
Earth Is An Oil-Producing Machine β€” We're Not Runn... (show quote)


Perhaps I haven't understood the data I have seen laid out out for me to comprehend . . . but I thought the issue was more one of trying to keep a "livable and clean earth" more than an issue of "cheap, abundant and efficient fossil fuels". Have I missed something?

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Jan 21, 2024 08:04:12   #
dpullum Loc: Tampa Florida
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
Note the OP's source document was written in 2015. Curious why he'd post old "news."

Since our addiction to oil use is closely related to climate change, "never running out" is going to be the least of our worries in another decade.


Next Linda will be concerned about the reversal of the Chevron Law, not realizing that our air and water could be enriched by industrial waste. Water for example will become a good source of minerals our bodies will utilize, Lead, Chromium +3, and Arsenic all restrict the growth of bacteria and viruses that threaten our health.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/467/837

If well read she would be familiar with the philosophy of Alfred E Neuman and be more relaxed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_E._Neuman

A. E. NEUMAN PhD SCIENCE AND PHILOSOPHY
A. E. NEUMAN PhD SCIENCE AND PHILOSOPHY...

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Jan 21, 2024 08:27:56   #
agillot
 
The only thing that bugs me about oil , is that what you remove from the earth is blown into the atmosphere in a form of volatile gasses /chemicals / smoke , same as coal /wood.That has to have a negative impact on the air quality .

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Jan 21, 2024 08:48:21   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
RodeoMan wrote:
Sourdough, you neglected to mention how good things were back in the day when the abundant use of fossil fuels allowed a protective layer of smog to cover many of our larger cities and nevermind our rivers in many cases so thick with petroleum products that they would catch on fire. It should be burn baby burn and if that causes problems for the future, so what -- you won't be here to deal with the consequences.


I remember my eyes burning from the LA smog during the '70s &'80s. It was much better during my last three decades living there with state wide biannual smog checks and cleaner fuel. It would be best to phase out petroleum fuels.

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Jan 21, 2024 08:52:18   #
tcthome Loc: NJ
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
It's a mystery to me how some will reference changes that took millions of years to occur but who ignore the impact of the current 8 billion+ human inhabitants who strain all the resources and give nothing back to Mother Earth.

That was then, this is now.


My thoughts on climate change. The Ice Age was gone long before the high use of crude. I believe it is a cycle that can't be stopped. What I can tell you is I could see more stars in the sky during the pandemic & even now than before it. (maybe the new glasses ) Also going into New York City around three days a week for work for about 10 years & smelling the difference in the air. I could taste the exhaust fumes. Reducing the use of fossil fuels might slow the Ozone Layer thing down some & help with cleaner air but it will not stop the ice from melting.

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Jan 21, 2024 08:53:55   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
lamiaceae wrote:
I remember my eyes burning from the LA smog during the '70s &'80s. It was much better during my last three decades living there with state wide biannual smog checks and cleaner fuel. It would be best to phase out petroleum fuels.


A lot of the smog comes from oxides of nitrogen. They are produced by high temperature combustion using air (79% nitrogen). That occurs in internal combustion engines, so just replacing fossil fuels with something else (e.g. hydrogen) will not eliminate that. We need a method to extract the energy using something other than ICE. Fuel cells are a possibility.

But we DO need to use something other than petroleum for fuels. It's too valuable for other things: agriculture (fertilizer), medicines, plastics, textiles...

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Jan 21, 2024 09:25:02   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
Morry wrote:
Perhaps I haven't understood the data I have seen laid out out for me to comprehend . . . but I thought the issue was more one of trying to keep a "livable and clean earth" more than an issue of "cheap, abundant and efficient fossil fuels". Have I missed something?
Greed today, gone tomorrow?

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Jan 21, 2024 09:29:22   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
DirtFarmer wrote:
A lot of the smog comes from oxides of nitrogen. They are produced by high temperature combustion using air (79% nitrogen). That occurs in internal combustion engines, so just replacing fossil fuels with something else (e.g. hydrogen) will not eliminate that. We need a method to extract the energy using something other than ICE. Fuel cells are a possibility.

But we DO need to use something other than petroleum for fuels. It's too valuable for other things: agriculture (fertilizer), medicines, plastics, textiles...
A lot of the smog comes from oxides of nitrogen. T... (show quote)


I fully agree with your second paragraph. But your first one addresses a specific point I did not address. There are many types of motors, or engines beyond internal combustion.

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Jan 21, 2024 09:36:30   #
fourlocks Loc: Londonderry, NH
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
It's a mystery to me how some will reference changes that took millions of years to occur but who ignore the impact of the current 8 billion+ human inhabitants who strain all the resources and give nothing back to Mother Earth.

That was then, this is now.


Thank you for adding a little logic to the "continuously being replenished" statement. It took millions of year's worth of organic matter being subjected to tremendous underground pressures for millions of years to turn vegetation into oil. We've used up a considerable volume of that oil in only a 150 years or so and it's not like our compost piles are going to turn into oil any time soon.

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Jan 21, 2024 09:43:24   #
raymondh Loc: Walker, MI
 
I note how the climate alarmists (Greta, Gore, . .) continue the drumbeat 10 years after what was to be the demise of earth.
On a side note, I don’t recall seeing an apology from a similar crowd who ran around with their hair on fire, chastising the Covid anti-vaxers now that the latest evidence reveals the damage that has been incurred by the younger, healthy, non-immuno compromised population.

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Jan 21, 2024 09:47:46   #
bw79st Loc: New York City
 
So you're saying we should stop and take a deep breath? Cough, cough!

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