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Jan 10, 2024 17:15:07   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
therwol wrote:
I would say that sensors reached their current IQ capability around 10 years ago and are stuck in time. Can you really see any difference in IQ between a Nikon D750, D810 or D850 and their current mirrorless cameras? Probably not. There are many reasons to prefer the current mirrorless options, but IQ isn't one of them. If you can live with the noise of the mirror and adequate autofocus, and if you have some of the best F mount lenses, then I would say that the D750, D810 and D850 should be on your radar. You will get better bargains on the older two of these cameras. The D850 is still being sold new. The D780 is also being sold new, so you may not be able to get a bargain on one of those.
I would say that sensors reached their current IQ ... (show quote)


I've been saying this for years. Although the D850 is Nikon's best DSLR, I think their D750 is their best 24MP DSLR, better priced than the subsequent D780, especially used. These bodies will last forever, in relative terms for DSLRs. If you're going to buy old DSLRs, at least buy the best and final versions.

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Jan 10, 2024 18:14:08   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
Bridges wrote:
I had two D700s and found them to be excellent cameras. The downside is that it doesn't have a large MB sensor so extreme cropping like going down to 1/4 of the shot is not so favorable. The plus side is that the light-gathering nodes on the sensor are far enough apart to handle noise really well. If you don't plan to enlarge more than about 30 x 40, you will be very pleased with the results. Also, a plus is you will need FF lenses so if later you do want to upgrade, you will already have the lenses for it.
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Someday, probably not to far in the distance, AI will solve low MB sensor issues. It could still be your exact image, just better looking.

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Jan 10, 2024 19:07:13   #
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CHG_CANON wrote:
I've been saying this for years. Although the D850 is Nikon's best DSLR, I think their D750 is their best 24MP DSLR, better priced than the subsequent D780, especially used. These bodies will last forever, in relative terms for DSLRs. If you're going to buy old DSLRs, at least buy the best and final versions.

The D750 is a such a real gem that, of the several FF SLRs gathering dust here, its the only one that leaves me feeling kinda guilty for abandoning it, like it has a personality.

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Jan 10, 2024 19:16:44   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
Bill_de wrote:
Someday, probably not to far in the distance, AI will solve low MB sensor issues. It could still be your exact image, just better looking.

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A couple years ago there was a UHH thread about low MB images and ways to improve them. A brief search didn't turn up anything but I complained about the concept at the time. The thread referenced some work that took an image an image and expanded it to form a much clearer image. It showed a 32x32 image that got expanded to 256x256 if I recall. It was an image of a building and some other things. The windows on the building showed fuzzy lines on the 32x32 image which were resolved as mullions in the larger version. I complained because the large version had information that was not present in the original (details of the mullions). Other examples were given that were just as hard for me to accept.

The main problem was how to come up with believable information to add to the image to make it clearer. We always complain that when a jpg compresses an image it throws away information that can't be recovered in postprocessing. This is basically the same problem.

But it won't be your exact image.

Edit: Found the thread

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Jan 10, 2024 19:35:08   #
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DirtFarmer wrote:


But it won't be your exact image.

Not seeing any problem with that.

Was the image reeeeeally 100% all yours in the first place ? What about the influencers living in your head ? What about the built in imaging influences of your camera ? What about serendipity ?

No need to overly protect some "your exact image" that wasnt exactly all yours anywho.

I recall some photographers protesting that editors had cropped their precious photos.

BTW I clicked the link. It led to a verrrrry typical UHH waste of time. I did not linger.

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Jan 10, 2024 22:48:50   #
jpicc1113
 
D7100 is not a full frame camera

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Jan 11, 2024 02:19:53   #
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jpicc1113 wrote:
D7100 is not a full frame camera

No hey problemo !
Did someone suggest otherwise ?

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Jan 11, 2024 05:23:20   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Anyone can spend time learning and practicing, the full-frame cameras are limited to a select few.

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Jan 11, 2024 08:39:43   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Robinbiorra wrote:
I own a D7100 which I am quite happy.....but I have a hankering for a full frame option. The D850 is a bit beyond my budget. So, D800, D810, D750 seem to be the obvious options. However, there are a lot of D700 fans out there and I can't help but wonder if much of of this adulation is hype driven group-think or if this old camera is really worth buying in 2024. Has anyone "upgraded" to an older camera such as this? What's been your experience and which of the other options should I consider seriously?
I own a D7100 which I am quite happy.....but I hav... (show quote)


There is a lot of hype about everything. Some people love the 1955 Studebaker. It all depends on what you want. The D700 was a great camera when it was introduced, but newer models have surpassed it.

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Jan 11, 2024 20:58:03   #
dml Loc: Texas
 
I have 2 D700 cameras. I love them. One has 5000 clicks and the other 250,000.
They are not for sale.

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Jan 12, 2024 10:48:21   #
PaulW128 Loc: Long Island, NY
 
dml wrote:
I have 2 D700 cameras. I love them. One has 5000 clicks and the other 250,000.
They are not for sale.


As I mentioned earlier, a very interesting post with lots of interesting comments. I'm not sure what happened to the OP but the responses should give them food for thought!

Paul

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Jan 12, 2024 13:36:00   #
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Judy795 wrote:
............... I have a volunteer gig coming up in Feb. At least 60 shots of women in Barbie get-up. ..............

Auto WB might be misled by all that pink !

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Jan 12, 2024 14:48:01   #
dml Loc: Texas
 
jerryc41 wrote:
There is a lot of hype about everything. Some people love the 1955 Studebaker. It all depends on what you want. The D700 was a great camera when it was introduced, but newer models have surpassed it.


I think d700 is still great. I have d200, d90, d7000 and other brands.
I always have my d700 with me.

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Jan 13, 2024 07:55:42   #
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Robinbiorra wrote:
I own a D7100 which I am quite happy.....but I have a hankering for a full frame option. The D850 is a bit beyond my budget. So, D800, D810, D750 seem to be the obvious options. However, there are a lot of D700 fans out there and I can't help but wonder if much of of this adulation is hype driven group-think or if this old camera is really worth buying in 2024. Has anyone "upgraded" to an older camera such as this? What's been your experience and which of the other options should I consider seriously?
I own a D7100 which I am quite happy.....but I hav... (show quote)


Hi Robin,

I actually own two D700’s. They were my first Nikon full frame cameras. I also own a D850 and a Z6II. The D700 when it came out was the camera of choice for wedding photographers. The colors that the D700 produces are unmatched by any camera Nikon has made. The camera is a tank. Its build is second to none. You could probably throw it against a wall and you would damage the wall and not the camera. lol. As far as the 12 megapixels, don’t worry about that. I actually have 4 pictures hanging on the wall of a Federal Reserve Bank Conference Center that are 48 x 48 taken with my D700. If you shoot portraits or weddings, it’s a great camera for that purpose. The skin tones and the colors are unmatched. I have read manny different things about the sensor of that camera, like the it being the same sensor of the D3 to it being a different sensor that is only in that specific camera. I believe it’s a unique sensor that Nikon used that they never used in any other camera. I’ve seen used D700’s for about $400.00. You can’t go wrong. Like I said though, if weight doesn’t bother you, it is a heavy camera. I also have a D750 which is much smaller. Like a few people has said also, you have to invest in full frame lenses. If you want to stay in a cropped frame, a camera nobody is talking about is the Nikon D300. It’s cropped frame but it is a Pro camera. It also takes great photos. In conclusion, I will never get rid of my D700’s. I still shoot portraits with them from time to time. Technology has come a long ways but the D700 is probably my all time favorite camera. Hope this helps.

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Jan 13, 2024 15:45:52   #
topcat Loc: Alameda, CA
 
I would go with the 750, but there is a lot to be said for going to the mirrorless. Z5 is a great camera.

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