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Jan 1, 2024 12:09:45   #
scallihan Loc: Tigard, OR
 
Canonuser wrote:
When the grammar and syntax are clearly more important to you than the message being conveyed, move on and don’t bother us with this nonsense about being perfectly correct.
There, and I’ve neither re-read or edited anything in this post, so pick the bones out of it if you feel the need.


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Jan 1, 2024 13:14:39   #
Mduffy910 Loc: Michigan
 
Well said!

I hope you all have a Healthy, Prosperous, and Photographic New Year! πŸ˜ŠπŸ“Έ

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Jan 1, 2024 15:34:28   #
wonderboy Loc: Cherokee, Iowa
 
Bridges wrote:
Sometimes I see a lot of meanness on this site. People without understanding the economies of other members, throw out recommendations about buying like they are the ultimate authority on a subject, or right out boast like they think others are stupid for not buying the best on the market. Some people skimp whenever they can due to their financial situation. Obviously, you can't buy a generic Nikon, Canon, Sony, or Olympus body so while someone may have funds for that, they may need to skimp elsewhere. Someone in another post actually said they would not buy a non-OEM battery because it might be made in a foreign country! Guess what -- your OEM batteries are made in a foreign country! Other answers berate members for buying 3rd party items like battery grips. Hey, maybe they don't need the grip that can fall off a 100 ft. cliff and survive, maybe they just like a grip that affords a better hold when using the camera in a vertical orientation. Someone else said they would only buy HP cartridges -- I have an answer for that -- professional equipment like printers using eight or more cartridges notwithstanding, if you own a printer that you paid a couple of hundred dollars for, you didn't buy a printer, you bought into a very expensive ink program. Those lower-priced printers are so cheap because when you buy one, HP, Canon, or any others the manufacturer has you by the balls! You will be paying through the nose for your ink. Epson, and now Canon and HP have printers that use tanks which are easy to fill and cost a fraction of what cartridges do. Another possibility is that when it comes to batteries who knows who makes them? There may only be two plants in Japan/China/Taiwan that make all of them and just put different names on them. Look at the round head flash from Neewer, Bolt, and Godox they are all the same unit, just a name change. When someone asks for advice, it would be nice to see people respond with their recommendations and not put others down for things like not using OEM equipment. I would bet 75% of people here who act like people are stupid for not spending the extra bucks for a Nikon/Canon/Sony battery, use a flash that is not OEM. I work part-time at Sam's Club and I've had people tell me they would only buy Everyready Batteries over the store brand. Guess what -- they are the same battery! They don't understand marketing -- they can't believe Everyready would sell us batteries that would undercut the name brand. I explain that most big retailers will have an inhouse brand and Eveyready knows if they don't sell us a generic, someone else would! This way they get all the business. Ever see two gas stations owned by the same company across the street from each other -- it's about limiting competition. While I understand some of the group has the money to buy top-drawer on all their equipment, I think putting others down (and that is what you are doing when you state I would only buy xxx) is insensitive and is an opinion you should keep to yourselves. When I was 15, I worked in a manufacturing jewelry shop. We sold Rolex watches both 14 kt. and gold plated. They looked identical so one day I asked Mr. Hays (the owner) why anyone would spend 1200 or more for a Rolex when they could have an identical watch in gold plate for a third of the price. I said no one would know the difference. Mr. Hays looked me in the eye and said, "Oh, but the owner would know". That has stuck with me for the last 58 years and I have tried to live life in a way so as not to flaunt what I have but to just respect my good fortune when something good comes my way. So UHHers, lighten up. Respect each other, give recommendations when asked, and don't come down on others for their choices. (If you are wondering about the cheap prices for Rolex Watches -- while I worked at the jewelry shop the US went off the gold standard. One day gold was 37.00 an ounce, the next day it was like 387.00 an ounce!)
Sometimes I see a lot of meanness on this site. P... (show quote)


Well said.

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Jan 1, 2024 16:45:33   #
AirForceterry Loc: NC
 
Thank you, it’s true that some of us can only spend x amount of money on our hobby and we only buy what we can afford, but we still are happy when we get a wall hanger. Thanks much for your input.

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Jan 1, 2024 17:50:24   #
OwlHarbor Loc: Pacific North West USA
 
It's good to know prices and not always but many times if it's too good a price to be true it is. Yes, many items, tools, and devices are made by parent companies and they sell items made for the store. I have bought items that come from China and buying what appears to be the same thing from a US supplier is 3 to four times the price. When you buy a European Canon it is much cheaper because although Canon makes it they label the camera the US or not and you have to have the factory repaired which they say although many companies will repair, sell, and buy equipment for much cheaper.

I used to count on Amazon to give the best price but have to check with their competitors, Ebay, WalMart, Home Depot, Lowes, and many many other places before ordering. Recently when on Amazon check the company's website Not the Amazon Store front but the actual website and you can often get better prices and free shipping. I recently bought an air tank from a MFR who delivered it to my house with the same shipping as Amazon but it came much quicker than other sources but the prices were the same no matter where I went.

If you're a veteran please check as some companies give a discount or give discounts for first-time use or a once-a-year discount. Its worth waiting.

Make sure you check models and descriptions because often black Friday and holiday sales are selling made-for-the-sale items.

Equipment I have not had a lot of luck with because even rated high by the company I have found items not so gently used.

I am a Canon APC user with standard lenses because I started with film and continued to update when DSLRs started coming out. I had been waiting for the R5 mark II but think I will wait until the companies come up with a smart camera and utilize some of what the better cell phones have. Can you imagine what kind of pictures you could get with APC or standard-size image chips and changeable lenses with smart software?

I'm one of the 17% of people over 65 that is still working and this is the last year working for someone else unless things change. No matter working or retired we shouldn't spend more than we have to and I like many want the best deal.

Last I remember the old saying buy the best glass you can afford. I think it's still true but unless you're doing for work or have unlimited cash that's not possible nor should it be a priority. I have a nice selection of lenses and two camera bodies and it gets the job done.

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Jan 1, 2024 20:05:36   #
Navywife66 Loc: NC
 
As others have stated, well said! I have seen my own journey go from needing the best equipment to take the best photos to I can downsize and do the same or better. It’s not the camera it really is the photographer. For batteries, I’ve used both original and 3rd party. I just really check out the reviews. I never thought I’d ever not have a canon and have an OM-1. Full frame down to a micro four thirds set up and enjoy it just the same if not more! More due to size and weight and yes price! I have seen some posts on this site that were mean and I’ve never personally been on the other side of these posts. I really thought the moderator was suppose to take care of such posts. πŸ€·β€β™€οΈ
I’m all about supporting everyone who puts in effort posting their photos and showing them off! Not everyone is a professional, not everyone can buy fancy editing software but they sure can take some fierce photos that I enjoy seeing!
Happy New year!!πŸŽŠπŸŽ†πŸŽˆ

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Jan 1, 2024 20:10:29   #
rcarol
 
Longshadow wrote:
OIE!


Bad, huh?

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Jan 1, 2024 20:46:21   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
rcarol wrote:
Bad, huh?

I still think it's funny that man has gone from hieroglyphics to the written word,
now we seem to be back at hieroglyphics....

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Jan 1, 2024 23:01:36   #
suterjo Loc: Delaplane, VA
 
Bridges: Well said. And I agree with everything you said, I've just never taken the time to write it all down as you have.

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Jan 2, 2024 09:03:52   #
Flyerace Loc: Mt Pleasant, WI
 
Having known plenty of "mean" people while growing up, I don't intend to be a mean person as an adult. If someone makes a nasty comment, I just go on to the next subject. I'm sorry if anything I've ever posted offended anyone. I've never intended to insult anyone, ever. Happy New Year to all.

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Jan 2, 2024 09:59:09   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
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Jan 2, 2024 11:27:12   #
Wallen Loc: Middle Earth
 
Bridges wrote:
Sometimes I see a lot of meanness on this site. People without understanding the economies of other members, throw out recommendations about buying like they are the ultimate authority on a subject, or right out boast like they think others are stupid for not buying the best on the market. Some people skimp whenever they can due to their financial situation. Obviously, you can't buy a generic Nikon, Canon, Sony, or Olympus body so while someone may have funds for that, they may need to skimp elsewhere. Someone in another post actually said they would not buy a non-OEM battery because it might be made in a foreign country! Guess what -- your OEM batteries are made in a foreign country! Other answers berate members for buying 3rd party items like battery grips. Hey, maybe they don't need the grip that can fall off a 100 ft. cliff and survive, maybe they just like a grip that affords a better hold when using the camera in a vertical orientation. Someone else said they would only buy HP cartridges -- I have an answer for that -- professional equipment like printers using eight or more cartridges notwithstanding, if you own a printer that you paid a couple of hundred dollars for, you didn't buy a printer, you bought into a very expensive ink program. Those lower-priced printers are so cheap because when you buy one, HP, Canon, or any others the manufacturer has you by the balls! You will be paying through the nose for your ink. Epson, and now Canon and HP have printers that use tanks which are easy to fill and cost a fraction of what cartridges do. Another possibility is that when it comes to batteries who knows who makes them? There may only be two plants in Japan/China/Taiwan that make all of them and just put different names on them. Look at the round head flash from Neewer, Bolt, and Godox they are all the same unit, just a name change. When someone asks for advice, it would be nice to see people respond with their recommendations and not put others down for things like not using OEM equipment. I would bet 75% of people here who act like people are stupid for not spending the extra bucks for a Nikon/Canon/Sony battery, use a flash that is not OEM. I work part-time at Sam's Club and I've had people tell me they would only buy Everyready Batteries over the store brand. Guess what -- they are the same battery! They don't understand marketing -- they can't believe Everyready would sell us batteries that would undercut the name brand. I explain that most big retailers will have an inhouse brand and Eveyready knows if they don't sell us a generic, someone else would! This way they get all the business. Ever see two gas stations owned by the same company across the street from each other -- it's about limiting competition. While I understand some of the group has the money to buy top-drawer on all their equipment, I think putting others down (and that is what you are doing when you state I would only buy xxx) is insensitive and is an opinion you should keep to yourselves. When I was 15, I worked in a manufacturing jewelry shop. We sold Rolex watches both 14 kt. and gold plated. They looked identical so one day I asked Mr. Hays (the owner) why anyone would spend 1200 or more for a Rolex when they could have an identical watch in gold plate for a third of the price. I said no one would know the difference. Mr. Hays looked me in the eye and said, "Oh, but the owner would know". That has stuck with me for the last 58 years and I have tried to live life in a way so as not to flaunt what I have but to just respect my good fortune when something good comes my way. So UHHers, lighten up. Respect each other, give recommendations when asked, and don't come down on others for their choices. (If you are wondering about the cheap prices for Rolex Watches -- while I worked at the jewelry shop the US went off the gold standard. One day gold was 37.00 an ounce, the next day it was like 387.00 an ounce!)
Sometimes I see a lot of meanness on this site. P... (show quote)



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Jan 2, 2024 11:38:46   #
Wallen Loc: Middle Earth
 
Flyerace wrote:
Having known plenty of "mean" people while growing up, I don't intend to be a mean person as an adult. If someone makes a nasty comment, I just go on to the next subject. I'm sorry if anything I've ever posted offended anyone. I've never intended to insult anyone, ever. Happy New Year to all.


Someone wise once said, "For evil to win, all the good guy have to do, is nothing".
I've been told to give the other cheek, but when there is none else to give, I go with the firefly captain:
"If someone tries to kill you, you kill them right back".

It is good to be a sheep in a herd, but no sheep should be sacrificed to evil.
I say call them out and let them know the evil they are doing, so they do not grow any bigger feeding on the weak.

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Jan 2, 2024 13:23:39   #
Lucian Loc: From Wales, living in Ohio
 
RiJoRi wrote:
Ya mean, "T'ain't the violin, it's the violinist"?
People who put down others on the basis of what equipment the others have say a heck of a lot more about their own inadequacies than anything else. And in time, nobody will care that you shot a picture with a Freakyflex 2000, f/13.734, at 1/2456" using a 2332 mm lens! They'll say, "What a good picture!" (or "Yuck!")

'nough said!
--Rich


Unfortunately, half the time when they should really be saying Juk or they may be thinking that, they say beautiful photo, excellent work. That does not help the photographer to improve I agree with what is being said here, though.

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Jan 2, 2024 13:24:54   #
Lucian Loc: From Wales, living in Ohio
 
Wallen wrote:
Someone wise once said, "For evil to win, all the good guy have to do, is nothing".
I've been told to give the other cheek, but when there is none else to give, I go with the firefly captain:
"If someone tries to kill you, you kill them right back".

It is good to be a sheep in a herd, but no sheep should be sacrificed to evil.
I say call them out and let them know the evil they are doing, so they do not grow any bigger feeding on the weak.


Well Said.

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