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I thought the Z8 had an Articulating screen?
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Dec 31, 2023 05:32:59   #
Capn_Dave
 
mwsilvers wrote:
I believe the Nikon articulating LCD screen design is very similar to the Canon design. I have had this screen design on my Nikon Z fc for last two years and find it useful when needed.


Actually the Canon and Olympus articulating screens are identical in operation

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Dec 31, 2023 05:44:01   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
Architect1776 wrote:
Your one opinion does not determine anything except your opinion.
I am sure you will find a few million to disagree with you.
I was not defending either style at all. Nikon did research, had development users and decided that their choice is valid.
Olympus did the same and came to a different conclusion. Except for vlogging of oneself both provide the needed movements.
Perhaps time will determine the winner if there really is a winner.
Your one opinion does not determine anything excep... (show quote)


The one Nikon that has a fully articulating screen is the Z30, which is essentially a vlogging camera.

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Dec 31, 2023 05:51:08   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
ChristianHJensen wrote:
Why the hell did you buy a Nikon vs an Olympus?


I have both and they’re both great!

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Dec 31, 2023 07:02:39   #
Bobby123
 
I was on a zoom a couple of years ago with a rep from Nikon and someone asked him about why Nikon doesn't do fully articulating screens. His response was that Nikon is concerned about the long-term reliability of a fully articulating screen so they have two arms attaching it. It made sense to me.
I've had Nikons since film days and I've managed with the screen that just tilts up and down, a huge advancement at the time. The screen is important enough that I appreciate the concern about reliability.

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Dec 31, 2023 07:22:22   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
Architect1776 wrote:
I am surprised that you didn't know about the screen.
It is well discussed in internet and in all reviews. Nikon literature shows and discusses the screen.
It gets mixed reviews just like a fully articulating screen gets mixed reviews.
Comes down to user preference and what they are used to. Nothing wrong with the screen, many seem to say that it is more robust than the fully articulating screen.


Many who buy expensive camera's don't read the manuals or have a clue about them. Just yesterday I ran across a guy with a brand new Z8, had a third party Tamron zoom telephoto attached. He started asking me how to set his camera for birds in flight. I told him the best way I knew how was to go manual.
He said he did not know how to do that and would I set up the camera for him. I respectively declined as I was currently shooting a Sony a1 and told him I was not aware of the menu for the newer Z line of Nikon camera's.
I guess many new owners think they will just set their camera's to Auto and shoot, and then expect everything to come out correctly exposed.
Oh yeah, he also asked me what white balance he should use outside. I advised him to leave the camera on Auto White Balance for outdoor shooting between 10 am to about 3 pm. Or, just leave it on auto all the time.
Wish I had this guys budget.

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Dec 31, 2023 07:41:04   #
joehel2 Loc: Cherry Hill, NJ
 
The Nikon Zf also has a fully articulated screen.

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Dec 31, 2023 07:57:15   #
DaveyDitzer Loc: Western PA
 
larryepage wrote:
I may have missed something somewhere along the way, but I'm unaware of any high-tier Nikon camera, mirror box or mirrorless, that has ever had a fully articulating screen. Tilt screen only. That goes back at least to the D500 and D850. (The D810 had a fixed rear screen.)

With a little experimentation, I suspect that you can find an operating sequence that will provide easier movement of the screen. Try pulling it out a little at the bottom, then pull from the top.

Articulating screens are something of a mixed blessing. Many like them, but my friend who had the camera repair shop and worked on Canon, Sony, and Nikon cameras said that almost 80% of his repairs involved the rear screen. Replacement usually involved complete camera disassembly to access the main circuit board.
I may have missed something somewhere along the wa... (show quote)


The Nikon Zfc has an articulating screen.

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Dec 31, 2023 08:33:47   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
JD750 wrote:
IMHO Olympus has easily won this one many years ago.

But if you prefer Nikon's version that is ok with me.

I like my Nikon kit, and I like everything about the Z8, but I don't buy the Nikon cameras for their tilt screen.


Advantages to you.
Does mean advantages to others.
Again your rant is you having a subjective opinion and not everyone else.

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Dec 31, 2023 09:52:34   #
leftj Loc: Texas
 
JD750 wrote:
Mine must be defective, it has very limited options and a ridiculously complex mechanism. Am I missing something here? I was expecting much more. I wish I had the option to buy the Z8 without it. I would rather not have a back screen, save the space and the potential unreliability, than have to put up with the abortion that is there now.

Full disclosure: I have many Nikon cameras and lenses I am a fan of the Nikon cameras and lenses. But Nikon's articulating screen design is just plain stupid.

Olympus has had a TRUE articulating screen for many years. Please see attached images for a proper articulating screen design.
Mine must be defective, it has very limited option... (show quote)


Guess you should have done your homework before you bought it.

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Dec 31, 2023 10:05:15   #
bikinkawboy Loc: north central Missouri
 
My now old D5100 has the articulating screen which pivots off the left side of the camera. It can be tilted nearly every direction and when it faces forward, it flip flops the image so that even though the screen is upside down, the image is still right side up. In essence, on a tripod you can see yourself. I’m guessing your camera is the same.

I will admit that I don’t use the screen in the articulated position that often, but after 11+ years and 35,000+ shots (plus some video as well as many thousands of miles in a motorcycle saddlebag) it still works as well as it did on day one. I would think that yours operates in a similar fashion and will likely be as trouble free as mine.

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Dec 31, 2023 10:17:05   #
jbk224 Loc: Long Island, NY
 
leftj wrote:
Guess you should have done your homework before you bought it.


👍

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Dec 31, 2023 10:38:10   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
ChristianHJensen wrote:
Why the hell did you buy a Nikon vs an Olympus?


Who says it has to be either or? I can and do have both.
I don't buy cameras because of their tilt screen design but it’s easy to see when one product has a superior design.

Do you think that any product is so perfect it cannot be improved?

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Dec 31, 2023 10:40:29   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
mwsilvers wrote:
I believe the Nikon articulating LCD screen design is very similar to the Canon design. I have had this screen design on my Nikon Z fc for last two years and find it useful when needed.

Ah ok that explains why Architect took offense to my suggestion. I was surprised that he seemed to be defending Nikon.

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Dec 31, 2023 10:46:40   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
leftj wrote:
Guess you should have done your homework before you bought it.
How do you know what I did or din’t do? No product is perfect and it’s possible I can be critical of a product feature while I actually like the product. In fact companies that listen to customer critique (some do, some don’t) have a unique resource for product development and improvement.

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Dec 31, 2023 12:25:11   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
Architect1776 wrote:
Advantages to you.
Does mean advantages to others.
Again your rant is you having a subjective opinion and not everyone else.
The features cited in my original post are available to those who use the better designed tilt system. That is not subjective that is fact.

Nikon and Canon make great products. However, there is still room for improvement.

If you choose to pretend that is not true, that’s fine with me. Denial after all is the strongest psychological tool we have for ignoring the reality in front of us.

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