Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.

I support the second, not just for hunting but also for self-defense however I also support Red Flag laws in all 50 states.

pendennis

One of the worst mass killings occurred in Bath, Michigan. The murderer killed 45, including himself, using dynamite.

To carry your comment to its ultimate. Anyone with a single shot weapon is king when everyone else is unarmed.

pendennis

Just in case you cheat - Frankly, I couldn't give a crap less about your affiliation. You may be a "Republican" by title, but you sure aren't one by belief. You don't believe in the Constitution; only your fairy tale beliefs about guns, which you obviously know little, to none of.

It also helps if you know the difference between red (the color), and read (past tense of read).

pendennis

You would have everyone go back to flintlocks, if you had your way.

BTW - self-loaders are not the be all, end all. I know revolver aficionados who can out-shoot semiautomatics with their wheel guns. You're beguiled by mythology.

pendennis

So you did cheat. Figured as much.

Texcaster Loc: Queensland

No flintlock! No flintlock! You're the flintlock! You're the flintlock! (sorry just TDS, it's the season!) Pump and lever action firearms still provide plenty of protection from bears and 'bad guys' and no one's 2nd gets stepped on.

btw - I know about those people too. They're skilled shooters. Semi-auto gives every low skill chimp awesome firepower. Dylan Roof comes to mind.

Dannj

I’ll answer your question by saying no one’s rights are thwarted by tight controls but my question was directed to the person who made the “club” argument.

Scruples Loc: Brooklyn, New York

While we may have thoughts be extremely careful.

I gave my opinion once here on the forum. Then unbeknownst to my wife and family, the Admin had grabbed me by the ankles. I was dragged to the door and heard it creak open. I was dragged up the 39 stairs to a very dark place. I had counted each stair as the back of my head landed upon it. Then inside Attic I shouted for help. No one came. I heard my faithful dog scratch at the door but could not open. My eyes adjusted to the darkness. Plenty of cobwebs and I was afraid to crawl around. I was sure a very large arachnid might find me very appetizing. As time passed, I drew silent and just listened to nearby sounds to determine where I was. I was in the Infamous Attic that I had heard so much about but dared not visit this dark and musty place. After a time of which I was not sure, I called out and apologized for my wayward outburst. The rather authoritarian voice on the other side confirmed my sincerity. I have yet to issue any opinion that defers from photography and hope that I will remain in The Admin’s favor.
Please heed my warning! The Attic is a place I dare not go again.

thom w Loc: San Jose, CA

Only until he fires it.

jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY

Your prediction came true, unfortunately. Now, I'll click on "Unwatch."

Scruples Loc: Brooklyn, New York

I never mind the hearty banter of two friends discussing a topic while chowing down on a good meal. I hope that other will learn from my past mistakes. For those new to the forum, I will admit that I embellished my experience. I did my best to elucidate my first and only adventure with the Forum Admin. I am grateful he/she was not as harsh. If you feel the need to offer your opinion, don’t!
Instead private message your fellow Hogger. That way one person can agree or disagree with you at a time.

Scruples Loc: Brooklyn, New York

I never mind the hearty banter of two friends discussing a topic while chowing down on a good meal. I hope that other will learn from my past mistakes. For those new to the forum, I will admit that I embellished my experience. I did my best to elucidate my first and only adventure with the Forum Admin. I am grateful he/she was not as harsh. If you feel the need to offer your opinion, don’t!
Instead private message your fellow Hogger. That way one person can agree or disagree with you at a time. Incidentally, this was the exact same topic that had me banished to the Attic. I love to reminisce but not over my past foolishness.

Dannj

Their rights are not thwarted at all by tight controls…but what does that have to do with my question? I was responding to a comment from pendennis.

pendennis

Just who is the authority who maintains the "tight controls" of which you write? If you allow the government, at any level to define those controls, then it's only a matter of time before those controls become a total ban. Not to be trite, but "power corrupts, and...".

Rights limitations are always best defined by the wielder of those rights, and we have plenty of laws which can be used to punish those who flout those laws.

Here's an interesting aside: Class III weapons (submachine guns, machine guns. fully automatic rifles, sawed-off shotguns, etc.) are all tightly controlled by the ATF, and you must have those weapons registered with them, and you must also have those weapons registered locally (sheriff, PD, etc.). The folks who own those not only pay the licensing fees, but the cost of those weapons is extremely high. The price of those guns starts at around $10K, and rises rapidly from there.

The only reported incident of which I'm aware, was a murder committed by a Dayton, OH, police officer who legally owned the weapon.

Dannj

Texcaster wrote about the “tight controls” . You and he should be having this dialogue,