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Dec 24, 2023 17:31:18   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
rehess wrote:
as well as for the Admin’s income. When I took a ‘vacation’ from this place, and wasn’t sure I would ever return, I asked Admin to be removed from membership. He refused.

Advertisers don't like decreasing membership/viewer numbers.

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Dec 24, 2023 17:32:50   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
Longshadow wrote:
Probably the "default" category when they hit Create New Topic, and many neglect to change it to the appropriate category.
I'll bet many don't even realize it can be changed, they don't "read", they just post.

I’ve complained several times when a photo is posted here instead of in the “Gallery”. Usual response is “it was an accident”.

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Dec 24, 2023 17:45:54   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
rehess wrote:
I’ve complained several times when a photo is posted here instead of in the “Gallery”. Usual response is “it was an accident”.

It was!
They accidentally didn't know (watch) what they were doing.

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Dec 24, 2023 17:51:54   #
uofmwoodie Loc: Bonita Springs, Fl
 
I miss the section called Photo galley where just picture were posted. Please go back to that set up

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Dec 24, 2023 18:00:28   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
uofmwoodie wrote:
I miss the section called Photo galley where just picture were posted. Please go back to that set up

You mean this one: https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/s-5-1.html?

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Dec 24, 2023 18:00:43   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
uofmwoodie wrote:
I miss the section called Photo galley where just picture were posted. Please go back to that set up

You mean this one: https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/s-5-1.html?

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Dec 24, 2023 18:40:52   #
larryepage Loc: North Texas area
 
DaveyDitzer wrote:
Is it my imagination or has the main photography section carried fewer and fewer items (topics)?


I believe you are correct that the volume of topics of general interest in this section has declined significantly. I do not believe that the subsections are the reason for this drop, because many of them are not very busy either.

I have noticed several trends, however:

Attempts at serious discussion that are not directed toward promoting mirrorless technology are routinely attacked and denigrated by a fairly small but very predictable group of bullies and detractors.

Attempts at serious discussion that are not directed toward saving raw files and doing extensive post processing are routinely attacked and denigrated by a fairly small but very predictable group of bullies and detractors.

A number of knowledgeable and helpful posters have either ceased posting altogether or have significantly reduced their contributions.

Although the vast majority of members are certainly continuing to pursue their interest in photography with mirror box camera equipment, those in this group (including me) have demonstrated, and continue to demonstrate, that we do not feel that we have a viable platform to discuss those questions, issues, and problems here. I have a list of topics that I would like to initiate, but they will never see the light of day here, simply because I do not have any interest in dealing with the trolls and detractors. I have other venues where I am discussing those topics quite productively and without anywhere near the indigestion and heartburn that would arise here.

In short...I believe that you are observing the slow death of this forum due to the bad behavior of the participants.

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Dec 24, 2023 19:12:27   #
PhotogHobbyist Loc: Bradford, PA
 
larryepage wrote:
I believe you are correct that the volume of topics of general interest in this section has declined significantly. I do not believe that the subsections are the reason for this drop, because many of them are not very busy either.

I have noticed several trends, however:

Attempts at serious discussion that are not directed toward promoting mirrorless technology are routinely attacked and denigrated by a fairly small but very predictable group of bullies and detractors.

Attempts at serious discussion that are not directed toward saving raw files and doing extensive post processing are routinely attacked and denigrated by a fairly small but very predictable group of bullies and detractors.

A number of knowledgeable and helpful posters have either ceased posting altogether or have significantly reduced their contributions.

Although the vast majority of members are certainly continuing to pursue their interest in photography with mirror box camera equipment, those in this group (including me) have demonstrated, and continue to demonstrate, that we do not feel that we have a viable platform here to discuss those questions, issues, and problems here. I have a list of topics that I would like to initiate, but they will never see the light of day here, simply because I do not have any interest in dealing with the trolls and detractors. I have other venues where I am discussing those topics quite productively and without anywhere near the indigestion and heartburn that would arise here.

In short...I believe that you are observing the slow death of this forum due to the bad behavior of the participants.
I believe you are correct that the volume of topic... (show quote)


I agree that many do not wish to participate because of the bad behavior, sarcastic comments, negative attitudes and detractors here. I enjoy reading many of the suggestions, advice and constructive critiques provided by members. I do not apprciate the sarcasm and biting criticism of others. Some of the reasons I do not post many photos.

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Dec 24, 2023 19:22:13   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
uofmwoodie wrote:
I miss the section called Photo galley where just picture were posted. Please go back to that set up


They have all always been there.

Photo Gallery

https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/s-5-1.html

There is even a sub-Gallery for Birds

https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/s-28-1.html

All photo sections:

https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/all-section-list

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Dec 24, 2023 19:30:55   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
DaveyDitzer wrote:
Is it my imagination or has the main photography section carried fewer and fewer items (topics)?


You can only discuss the virtues of teleconverters, smart phones, and which brand is best, a limited number of times until folks just wear out.

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Dec 24, 2023 21:48:57   #
cruise4two
 
larryepage wrote:
I believe you are correct that the volume of topics of general interest in this section has declined significantly. I do not believe that the subsections are the reason for this drop, because many of them are not very busy either.

I have noticed several trends, however:

Attempts at serious discussion that are not directed toward promoting mirrorless technology are routinely attacked and denigrated by a fairly small but very predictable group of bullies and detractors.

Attempts at serious discussion that are not directed toward saving raw files and doing extensive post processing are routinely attacked and denigrated by a fairly small but very predictable group of bullies and detractors.

A number of knowledgeable and helpful posters have either ceased posting altogether or have significantly reduced their contributions.

Although the vast majority of members are certainly continuing to pursue their interest in photography with mirror box camera equipment, those in this group (including me) have demonstrated, and continue to demonstrate, that we do not feel that we have a viable platform to discuss those questions, issues, and problems here. I have a list of topics that I would like to initiate, but they will never see the light of day here, simply because I do not have any interest in dealing with the trolls and detractors. I have other venues where I am discussing those topics quite productively and without anywhere near the indigestion and heartburn that would arise here.

In short...I believe that you are observing the slow death of this forum due to the bad behavior of the participants.
I believe you are correct that the volume of topic... (show quote)


Your comments are 100% spot on !!

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Dec 24, 2023 22:41:46   #
Ava'sPapa Loc: Cheshire, Ct.
 
It's unfortunate (for me), but I don't spend nearly as much time on the HOG as I used to. I don't care what anyone says in defense of the new format. And apparently, I'm not the only one. Oh well.

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Dec 25, 2023 00:31:07   #
larryepage Loc: North Texas area
 
Ava'sPapa wrote:
It's unfortunate (for me), but I don't spend nearly as much time on the HOG as I used to. I don't care what anyone says in defense of the new format. And apparently, I'm not the only one. Oh well.


Keep in mind that those of us who enter via the home page have not seen what is called "the change in format." All that has changed, as far as I can tell, is the linkage between the Digest emailand the forum.

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Dec 25, 2023 05:29:05   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
larryepage wrote:
Keep in mind that those of us who enter via the home page have not seen what is called "the change in format." All that has changed, as far as I can tell, is the linkage between the Digest emailand the forum.


Same here. When I go to UHH I see links to 4 sections, plus a link to "All Sections". It's been the same for as long as I can remember. I like simplicity!

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Dec 25, 2023 08:00:05   #
cmc4214 Loc: S.W. Pennsylvania
 
DaveyDitzer wrote:
Is it my imagination or has the main photography section carried fewer and fewer items (topics)?


It is my personal opinion that participation on UHH in general is down.
It is also my opinion that the reason for that is largely due to needless insulting comments and arguments being allowed to continue on this forum, driving away some seasoned members, and preventing new members from joining.
My participation is down considerably for that very reason.

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