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Dec 23, 2023 13:49:04   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
A photographer and their money are easily parted.

If you have an effective and efficient back-up strategy of a) your original RAW files and b) the edit instructions that convert them to another edited format, why would you then spend more money to create another redundant copy of either of these key assets?

I don’t provide any more protection for my files now than I did in the past - or do now - for my negatives.

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Dec 23, 2023 14:16:38   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
rehess wrote:
I don’t provide any more protection for my files now than I did in the past - or do now - for my negatives.

My film negatives and slides were never "backed up".

My digital and scanned images are by Father, Son, & Grandfather backups locally, and by Carbonite.

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Dec 23, 2023 16:38:05   #
gouldopfl
 
I have the raw files I am working on in a local directory on my computer. It is also on my NAS and as a part of my regular NAS backup it gets copied to my iDrive account.

You need to test your backups about once a year at a minimum by reinstalling or recovering the backup OS and files.

What good are backups if they can't be recovered.

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Dec 23, 2023 16:46:08   #
rangerjohn Loc: Houston Texas
 
I don’t use anything cloud, I have a couple 4T solid state drives I store all my images on.
I never store anything in my actual computer.

It keeps the computer from slowing/filling up, it’s cheap ($100 one time purchase roughly) and easy to access.

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Dec 23, 2023 16:52:25   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
gouldopfl wrote:
I have the raw files I am working on in a local directory on my computer. It is also on my NAS and as a part of my regular NAS backup it gets copied to my iDrive account.

You need to test your backups about once a year at a minimum by reinstalling or recovering the backup OS and files.

What good are backups if they can't be recovered.

...Only if I had another computer to play with.

I won't say that in 25+ years I never needed to do a recovery. I won't say that, Murphy may hear me.

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Dec 23, 2023 17:03:57   #
bdk Loc: Sanibel Fl.
 
in the year 2000 I took a picture. Edited it with what ever editor I had at the time.
Very recently I needed that picture. When I found it, it was terrible. My editing 20+ years ago left a lot to be desired. Having the RAW file I reedited the pic to my new standards.
Had I deleted it, i am not sure I could have gotten the image I needed.
When taking photography class, I was told to save EVERYTHING ...Glad I listened.

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Dec 23, 2023 17:19:46   #
Cameralark Loc: Torrington, CT
 
Nothing was ever said about deleting the RAW file.

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Dec 23, 2023 17:23:24   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
Longshadow wrote:
...Only if I had another computer to play with.

I won't say that in 25+ years I never needed to do a recovery. I won't say that, Murphy may hear me.

In 25 years I may not saying anything - I’m in my mid-70’s right now.

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Dec 23, 2023 17:24:49   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
rehess wrote:
In 25 years I may not saying anything - I’m in my mid-70’s right now.

Right behind ya....

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Dec 23, 2023 17:28:34   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
Guess I'm leading the pack. In 25 years I'll be 109.

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Dec 23, 2023 17:31:34   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
gouldopfl wrote:
I have the raw files I am working on in a local directory on my computer. It is also on my NAS and as a part of my regular NAS backup it gets copied to my iDrive account.

You need to test your backups about once a year at a minimum by reinstalling or recovering the backup OS and files.

What good are backups if they can't be recovered.

Absolutely correct!

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Dec 23, 2023 17:36:52   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
rangerjohn wrote:
I don’t use anything cloud, I have a couple 4T solid state drives I store all my images on.
I never store anything in my actual computer.

It keeps the computer from slowing/filling up, it’s cheap ($100 one time purchase roughly) and easy to access.


If you paid $100 for 4TB SSDs, you REALLY need an off site disaster recovery copy of your data.

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Dec 23, 2023 17:39:39   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
TriX wrote:
If you paid $100 for 4TB SSDs, you REALLY need an off site disaster recovery copy of your data.



I like WD Gold drives, with CMR, not SMR.

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Dec 23, 2023 22:18:21   #
akamerica
 
Ah yes the cloud. Wonder why many companies want your financial data, pictures, etc etc for a very low price.

My answer is in their Privacy Statement that can be many pages long i.e. Intuit. A good attorney can read and form an opinion that probably includes that they now have "joint ownership" of what they are storing. AND they can sell the data to the Data Mining companies. All of course without your name attached. Yea right.

There have been reports that when you use Bluetooth in your car, the words are uploaded to . . .?

That is why my Income Tax is not transmitted over the internet by Intuit. Intuit that wants all of Quickbooks data in their cloud and not on your personal hard drive. The data lives on in the cloud.

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Dec 23, 2023 23:24:01   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
akamerica wrote:
Ah yes the cloud. Wonder why many companies want your financial data, pictures, etc etc for a very low price.

My answer is in their Privacy Statement that can be many pages long i.e. Intuit. A good attorney can read and form an opinion that probably includes that they now have "joint ownership" of what they are storing. AND they can sell the data to the Data Mining companies. All of course without your name attached. Yea right.

There have been reports that when you use Bluetooth in your car, the words are uploaded to . . .?

That is why my Income Tax is not transmitted over the internet by Intuit. Intuit that wants all of Quickbooks data in their cloud and not on your personal hard drive. The data lives on in the cloud.
Ah yes the cloud. Wonder why many companies want ... (show quote)


All your data already lives in the cloud The IRS, Medical, insurance, social security and at least 75% of the companies you do business with AND the DOD and 3 letter Intel agencies use the cloud. Why? Because it’s the safest, least expensive storage there is. And if you use a major cloud provider like they do, such as Amazon, Google, Microsoft or Apple, it’s all encrypted so no one is data mining it - that’s just an unfounded conspiring theory that ignores the technical details. You know where your information is coming from? Web browsers and the sites you visit and social media sites like FB, (and yes UHH) and relational databases used by insurance companies, medical providers, law enforcement and occasionally the Intel agencies if you’re suspected of being a bad boy. And none of that has anything to do with the cloud - it’s been going on long before the cloud.

Don’t let ill informed naysayers prevent you from using the safest, most reliable storage there is for a disaster recovery copy of your data. And in the event you think hackers are spending time looking through your tens of thousands of files for one nugget, remember use a major cloud provider that provides encryption.

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