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Dec 17, 2023 17:27:53   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Vladimir200 wrote:
Dennis, not a huge difference for heavens sake. Twin towers went down on W's watch but not his fault. Pearl Harbor was bombed on FRD's watch but not his fault. No President wants anything bad to happen on their watch. No one blamed W or FDR what "what happend on their watch" but W won a second election (I voted for him twice); he reacted properly, i.e. Homeland Security, etc) and FDR was a hero for the way he reacted. Dennis, settle down a little and I say that seriously. History, so far, will be kind to Biden's accomplishments. I will give you one item, however. The border is a mess and no one, both parties, can't seem to figure out what to do. Sad.
Dennis, not a huge difference for heavens sake. T... (show quote)


AGAIN, please point out where I said something was Biden's fault. That IS what you said isn't it?

Settle down, you tell me. Hell I didn't know I was settled up. You made either a lying or sadly mistaken comment about what I posted. I think you are wrong and am simply asking you to reread my comment and then prove what you are mistakenly saying about me or are lying for some reason of your own. Point out where I said what you said I did or I would appreciate an apology. I am claiming I did not say Biden did these things. But they did happen on his watch. You pointing out the Twin Towers, Pearl Harbor and so on means nothing in this discussion and you know it.

Have a wonderful day,

Dennis

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Dec 17, 2023 17:31:07   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
Racmanaz wrote:
Covid happened during Trump's watch and the DumboCraps blame Trump for all the deaths in the U.S. from Covid.


All the deaths???? Maybe at least two he is responsible for but that is just a guess.

How many would you say Trump is responsible for? Go ahead, no one is going to hold you to it.

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Dec 17, 2023 17:34:12   #
dlwhawaii Loc: Sunny Wailuku, Hawaii
 
Racmanaz wrote:
Covid happened during Trump's watch and the DumboCraps blame Trump for all the deaths in the U.S. from Covid.


He sure helped. Covid will be over in 2 weeks. Covid will be over once it gets warmer. Use horse medicine (chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine). Inject a disinfectant. I won't blame him for ALL the deaths, just a large part.

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Dec 17, 2023 17:37:53   #
Effate Loc: El Dorado Hills, Ca.
 
dlwhawaii wrote:
Denise, are you Rac's brother/sister? I asked him. How are the Dems going to pass effective immigration laws, when the Republicans sole purpose in life is to counter anything Democratic?
Are prices higher because of Biden? If so, prove it.
Is inflation higher because of Biden? If so, prove it.
Are violent crime rates up because of Biden. If so, prove it.
Are food prices higher because of Biden? If so, prove it.
Are gas prices higher because of Biden? If so, prove it.
Are saying Russia invading Ukraine is Biden's fault? If so, prove it.
Yes Trump TRIED to do something about the DACA people and then the Democrats basically said FU as well as the SCOTUS. Trump TRIED to TERMINATE DACA, however SCOTUS said NO. https://www.nilc.org/issues/daca/alert-supreme-court-overturns-trump-administrations-termination-of-daca/
Trump's "Infrastructure Plan" was fatally flawed. https://www.cbpp.org/blog/trump-15-trillion-infrastructure-plan-is-a-mirage
Is higher illegal immigration because of Biden? If so, prove it.
I am not old and forgetful, just old. I am not as you say, "just supporting the Left Wing bullshit lies and corruption for a crooked agenda." I'm just sick and tired of the do nothing POS GOP, which you wholeheartedly support as well as their hero "The Donald".
I m actually looking forward to your non-answers.
Denise, are you Rac's brother/sister? I asked him.... (show quote)


Guess no proof is required as long as 67% of the public (left, right and center) believe it’s true. Take a gander at the polls in most of the metrics you want proof of.

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Dec 17, 2023 17:38:32   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
dlwhawaii wrote:
He sure helped. Covid will be over in 2 weeks. Covid will be over once it gets warmer. Use horse medicine (chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine). Inject a disinfectant. I won't blame him for ALL the deaths, just a large part.


I believe your guess is a little more accurate than mine.

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Dec 17, 2023 17:44:29   #
dlwhawaii Loc: Sunny Wailuku, Hawaii
 
Effate wrote:
Guess no proof is required as long as 67% of the public (left, right and center) believe it’s true. Take a gander at the polls in most of the metrics you want proof of.


What polls specifically? I gave a valid source for my statements. Can you?

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Dec 17, 2023 17:44:57   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
dennis2146 wrote:
I will leave you to explain that idiotic comment. It makes no sense to me.

Dennis


In the post I replied to you spoke of dems screwing trump, hence my comment regarding the actions some pubs are performing.

What I truly find hilarious is the two sides constantly essentially whining about which prez was worse. Both of them are pure crap, so I suppose there should be a winner, but in reality, why does anyone really care. Why would any vote for either...

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Dec 17, 2023 17:46:23   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
LOL! The search for references continuuuuuuuuuues!

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Dec 17, 2023 18:04:45   #
Effate Loc: El Dorado Hills, Ca.
 
dlwhawaii wrote:
What polls specifically? I gave a valid source for my statements. Can you?


Come on really? Pretty much every poll. I visit Kauai (usually for a month) pretty much every year and I believe they have TV and the internet https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2023/12/14/assessments-of-joe-biden/

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Dec 17, 2023 18:11:55   #
dlwhawaii Loc: Sunny Wailuku, Hawaii
 
Effate wrote:
Come on really? Pretty much every poll. I visit Kauai (usually for a month) pretty much every year and I believe they have TV and the internet https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2023/12/14/assessments-of-joe-biden/


All well and good. BUT, they are still just opinions. Here's an comparison of Trump's vs Biden's actual performance: https://www.barrons.com/articles/trump-vs-biden-economy-ec8ff89a

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Dec 17, 2023 18:18:52   #
Effate Loc: El Dorado Hills, Ca.
 
dlwhawaii wrote:
All well and good. BUT, they are still just opinions. Here's an comparison of Trump's vs Biden's actual performance: https://www.barrons.com/articles/trump-vs-biden-economy-ec8ff89a


Read as far as I could but I am not going to pay to finish the article. Additionally, facts that favor either side are not going to matter as much as how people feel and the opinions you eluded to.

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Dec 17, 2023 18:31:24   #
Vladimir200 Loc: Beaumont, Ca.
 
Racmanaz wrote:
Covid happened during Trump's watch and the DumboCraps blame Trump for all the deaths in the U.S. from Covid.


Racmanaz, Trump was not reelected because of his mishandling of the COVID crises which was a national emergency that occurred in our country similar to war. No reasonable thinking person would blame Trump for all of the Covid deaths as you put it but the way Trump handled the crises, especially early on, certainly didn't help. Also, those that were anti-vaccine (i.e. refused to get the Covid shot when it finally emerged late 2020, early 2021) did not help the fight against Covid either.

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Dec 17, 2023 18:36:12   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
Vladimir200 wrote:
Racmanaz, Trump was not reelected because of his mishandling of the COVID crises which was a national emergency that occurred in our country similar to war. No reasonable thinking person would blame Trump for all of the Covid deaths as you put it but the way Trump handled the crises, especially early on, certainly didn't help. Also, those that were anti-vaccine (i.e. refused to get the Covid shot when it finally emerged late 2020, early 2021) did not help the fight against Covid either.


Someone here has a good memory.

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Dec 17, 2023 19:41:44   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
dlwhawaii wrote:
I don't have a subscription either, but I am able to read. Are you? Your intransigence and mindset are showing.


Well, it indicated that you must subscribe in order to read the rest of the story

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Dec 17, 2023 20:36:52   #
Texcaster Loc: Queensland
 
Vladimir200 wrote:
Racmanaz, Trump was not reelected because of his mishandling of the COVID crises which was a national emergency that occurred in our country similar to war. No reasonable thinking person would blame Trump for all of the Covid deaths as you put it but the way Trump handled the crises, especially early on, certainly didn't help. Also, those that were anti-vaccine (i.e. refused to get the Covid shot when it finally emerged late 2020, early 2021) did not help the fight against Covid either.


... and Trump managed to make common sense, *first echelon pandemic prevention political.

*masks, for the Tucker Carlson, endlessly perplexed types that infest this place.

"Yo!! TUCKER!!



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