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Dec 13, 2023 04:14:20   #
twosummers Loc: Melbourne Australia or Lincolnshire England
 
I've tried to come up with a valid reason to avoid health screening but so far I have failed - so, as I get older, I just say "bring it on" - if anyone can provide a reason I can use please let me know?

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Dec 13, 2023 07:26:55   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Tom W wrote:
You don't say if your friend is on Medicare, if so, they require the annual physical. No getting around it. Easy enough to cool it with sweets and carbs for a few weeks prior to the blood draw. Also drink lots of water prior to the blood draw. My 2 cents worth....


He's over 65, so I suppose he is.

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Dec 13, 2023 07:27:58   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Scruples wrote:
I can appreciate the severity of health care in our country. It is not worth a bucket of Parrot’s P!ss. Since I work at a major New York City Hospital I and others were trained to provide a full level of care to patients

I would like to offer some advice. Most doctors in private practice are taking it on the chin. Insurance companies are cutting back at every corner. All patient’s are suffering. Find a hospital with full services is essential. Find a staff of physicians who are willing to work hard. Do not be afraid to voice your concerns to the staff. And if all else fails your best advocate is a patient ombudsman.

This is a challenging time for all of us. We will persevere and emerge victorious. We must help ourselves and our families so that we can improve the quality of care in this country!
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Sad but true. Money is King!

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Dec 13, 2023 07:36:14   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Where better to go for medical advice than a photography forum?

I was talking to a friend yesterday, and he said that he canceled his annual physical because he didn't get the blood test. He didn't want to get a blood test because he said he had been eating a lot of sweets lately, and he didn't want to get a false result.

I didn't think it worked that way. If you ate an entire bag of candy and had the test immediately after, I can imagine that skewing the test results, but I suspect the sugar level evens out over time.

My doctor's office now does blood tests, so it's very convenient.

So, is this guy just afraid of needles, or is there some validity to his fears.
Where better to go for medical advice than a photo... (show quote)


Is he diabetic? If so, eating too many sweets or carbs, even over a period of time, would raise his A1C.

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Dec 13, 2023 09:34:13   #
Retina Loc: Near Charleston,SC
 
jerryc41 wrote:
When my son's medical insurance expired, he tried calling local doctors to become a patient. He got two types of replies: not accepting patients; schedule an interview. He was able to reinstate his insurance and keep his regular doctor. Making a medical appointment means scheduling months in advance.

Medical care requiring a physician's orders is subject, in part, to the law of supply and demand. Wait times, whether for appointments or in the waiting room, and the cost of care are high because the supply held low. The difference between most commodities, products, and services is that medical care is over-regulated far beyond the need for quality control. It is a myth in the U.S. that only the top few percent of students are qualified to become doctors. There are simply not enough schools to meet the need. This is intentional, buttressed by myth about qualifications and the aura that surrounds the embroidered white coat and stethoscope. Like my earlier reference to the Wizard of Oz, the four had high praise and adulation due to royalty because he, and only he, held any hope for what they needed. I will never forget the reply from a doctor to my question about the cost of a particular procedure costing several thousand dollars that took little time, was done by a tech, and where the materials cost almost nothing. He said if I called around I would find everyone charges the same. He didn't answer the question, of course, but it said a lot about what is called racketeering in most other professions. The same is true for the cost of a medical education. This comes as no surprise since we have the best government money can buy. I apologize if this offends those on the provider side of the fence. I am only addressing one reason for the undeniable fact of excessive wait times and the cost of even the most basic care that requires a doctor's order.

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Dec 13, 2023 09:39:18   #
srt101fan
 
Retina wrote:
Medical care requiring a physician's orders is subject, in part, to the law of supply and demand. Wait times, whether for appointments or in the waiting room, and the cost of care are high because the supply held low. The difference between most commodities, products, and services is that medical care is over-regulated far beyond the need for quality control. It is a myth in the U.S. that only the top few percent of students are qualified to become doctors. There are simply not enough schools to meet the need. This is intentional, buttressed by myth about qualifications and the aura that surrounds the embroidered white coat and stethoscope. Like my earlier reference to the Wizard of Oz, the four had high praise and adulation due to royalty because he, and only he, held any hope for what they needed. I will never forget the reply from a doctor to my question about the cost of a particular procedure costing several thousand dollars that took little time, was done by a tech, and where the materials cost almost nothing. He said if I called around I would find everyone charges the same. He didn't answer the question, of course, but it said a lot about what is called racketeering in most other professions. The same is true for the cost of a medical education. This comes as no surprise since we have the best government money can buy. I apologize if this offends those on the provider side of the fence. I am only addressing one reason for the undeniable fact of excessive wait times and the cost of even the most basic care that requires a doctor's order.
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Dec 13, 2023 09:52:26   #
Tom Bar
 
A blood sugar test will tell you what you blood sugar level is at the moment. If the pancreas is working properly, it takes about 2 hours for the blood sugar to return to fasting levels. A hemoglobin A1c will tell you what your blood sugar has been doing over the last couple of months. If your friend is medicare age, his MD is required to get certain lab work for his "annual wellness check" (we can't call it an annual physical anymore. Medicare doesn't pay for that.) His MD will decide if any labs other than what is required are indicated based on his past history, family history, etc. Our health care system has been based on treating illness after it happens rather than catching something early or preventing illness. I'm not sure government mandates and name changes can turn that principle around, and folks just don't want to do what is necessary to prevent illness. "Don't ask me to change my lifestyle. Just give me a pill to cover whatever is wrong." said the patient, myself included. Buckle up Buttercup, and get your a$$ to your MD.
Free medical advice worth about what you pay for it.
Signed
A retired physician whose license has expired

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Dec 13, 2023 10:38:01   #
Retina Loc: Near Charleston,SC
 
twosummers wrote:
I've tried to come up with a valid reason to avoid health screening but so far I have failed - so, as I get older, I just say "bring it on" - if anyone can provide a reason I can use please let me know?

Many dangerous conditions remain asymptomatic until they are incurable or cause severe morbidity. A properly done wellness check cannot catch all of them, of course, but enough to make it worthwhile, especially if accompanied by a thorough history and physical (good luck with that.) About the apparently ironic requirement to avoid exercise prior to certain blood tests, one reason is to avoid masking a result that could indicate heart damage by the effects of exercise on skeletal muscle. Exercise causes short term damage with long term benefits when done consistently over time.

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Dec 13, 2023 14:03:56   #
tgreenhaw
 
You should suggest he read what the A1C test is. It uses a biomarker to identify blood sugar averaged over a long period of time. If he is concerned about blood sugar, the AIC blood test is critical and wont be heavily impact to what you ate before the test.

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Dec 13, 2023 14:11:32   #
fetzler Loc: North West PA
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Where better to go for medical advice than a photography forum?

I was talking to a friend yesterday, and he said that he canceled his annual physical because he didn't get the blood test. He didn't want to get a blood test because he said he had been eating a lot of sweets lately, and he didn't want to get a false result.

I didn't think it worked that way. If you ate an entire bag of candy and had the test immediately after, I can imagine that skewing the test results, but I suspect the sugar level evens out over time.

My doctor's office now does blood tests, so it's very convenient.

So, is this guy just afraid of needles, or is there some validity to his fears.
Where better to go for medical advice than a photo... (show quote)


There are two tests for blood sugar.

1. measurement of blood glucose concentration. This is taken after a 12 (or more) hour fast. If you are normal the glucose level will be normal.

2. A1C measurement - this represents about a 3 month average glucose level. This could be a bit high if you are normal and consume a LOT of sweets but if you are normal it will be normal too.

If you are diabetic you won't be able to hide it.

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Dec 13, 2023 16:01:19   #
niteman3d Loc: South Central Pennsylvania, USA
 
Tom W wrote:
You don't say if your friend is on Medicare. If he is they require the annual physical. No getting around it. Easy enough to lay off the sweets and carbs for a week or two prior to the blood draw. Go in fasting but drink lots of water prior. My two cents worth.


The annual wellness exam is a service provided by Medicare, but to my knowledge, it is not "required".

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Dec 14, 2023 19:44:31   #
greigfla
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Where better to go for medical advice than a photography forum?

I was talking to a friend yesterday, and he said that he canceled his annual physical because he didn't get the blood test. He didn't want to get a blood test because he said he had been eating a lot of sweets lately, and he didn't want to get a false result.

I didn't think it worked that way. If you ate an entire bag of candy and had the test immediately after, I can imagine that skewing the test results, but I suspect the sugar level evens out over time.

My doctor's office now does blood tests, so it's very convenient.

So, is this guy just afraid of needles, or is there some validity to his fears.
Where better to go for medical advice than a photo... (show quote)


If your friend is past the age of 12 he is probably more afraid of what the test will show than of any needles. And, as others have correctly stated here, blood sugar returns to "normal" quickly, so the most a high glucose would tell the doctor is to do a A1c test to see if it was suggesting a temporary or long term condition . . . . which is very useful information for anyone who wants to live long and prosper.

Avoiding doctor's appointments to keep from hearing what one doesn't want to hear is frowned upon by the medical profession . . . . but encouraged by underemployed grave diggers.

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Dec 15, 2023 07:38:57   #
Dannj
 
redrocktom wrote:
There is usually a fasting period before a comprehensive blood test to ensure accurate results. Just ask the doctor.


My doctor says nothing but water 12 hours before.

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Dec 15, 2023 08:33:36   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
SteveR wrote:
Is he diabetic? If so, eating too many sweets or carbs, even over a period of time, would raise his A1C.


No, and he wants to stay that way.

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Dec 16, 2023 12:41:12   #
alliebess Loc: suburban Philadelphia
 
Ask for an HbA1C test; it gives an average of blood sugar over a number of days, not just the day the blood was drawn.

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