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Nov 30, 2023 11:47:04   #
moonhawk Loc: Land of Enchantment
 
Canisdirus wrote:
Nikon has way better eye detection...and phase AF.

Weight...well Nikon likes to go heavy for some reason.


Interesting. Have you used both?

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Nov 30, 2023 11:49:50   #
Canisdirus
 
moonhawk wrote:
Interesting. Have you used both?


I can read...I have a Nikon system.

Om is way behind in tech...and not accelerating...I'm not sure they are doing anything.

I go to their page....looks the same...other companies...like wildfire the news. Om-D...almost zip.

That's enough of a tip off.

You have it...great...keep it.

But it's a no as a recommendation for someone else.

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Nov 30, 2023 12:30:16   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
Canisdirus wrote:
Nikon has way better eye detection...and phase AF.

Weight...well Nikon likes to go heavy for some reason.


Tell us all about your experience shooting your OM-1.
Yep, that’s what I thought. You just have it in for OM Systems for some reason.

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Nov 30, 2023 12:35:33   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
Canisdirus wrote:
I can read...I have a Nikon system.

Om is way behind in tech...and not accelerating...I'm not sure they are doing anything.

I go to their page....looks the same...other companies...like wildfire the news. Om-D...almost zip.

That's enough of a tip off.

You have it...great...keep it.

But it's a no as a recommendation for someone else.


Way behind in tech? That’s hilarious. Only know are others starting to catch up with Pro Capture. And Nikon only does it with JPEG. I shoot both an OM-1 and a Z9 and only with the latest firmware does the Z9 edge out the OM-1 in AF, but the ON-1 is still excellent.

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Nov 30, 2023 17:08:39   #
wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
 
Canisdirus wrote:
I can read...I have a Nikon system.

Om is way behind in tech...and not accelerating...I'm not sure they are doing anything.

I go to their page....looks the same...other companies...like wildfire the news. Om-D...almost zip.

That's enough of a tip off.

You have it...great...keep it.

But it's a no as a recommendation for someone else.


"OM is way behind in tech...and not accelerating-" Who was the first to weatherproof 80% of their bodies and 100% of their Pro lenses such no extra weather gear was required? OM. Who was the first to shoot at 60 frames a second and now at 120 frames a second? OM. Who was the first to use Pro Capture technology? OM. Who devised a way to produce an 80mp RAW image from a 20mp sensor? OM. Who has produced at least two new bodies and over three new lenses after we have all been told by you that OM had one leg in the grave and the other leg was slipping on a banana peel - two years ago? OM. Who has produced a photographic industry award winning macro lens that can be handheld at 4X lifesize (and do not tell us it cannot be done because I have the lens and have done it)? OM. Who makes a professional body and 4.1° lens that is half the size, 0.4 times the weight, and 0.25 times the cost of the full frame version (OM-1 and 300 f4 Pro IS versus Nikon Z9 and Z 600 f4)? OM.

I am more than willing to admit that 4/3rds is not for everyone. There are aspects of full frame that cannot be done using 4/3rds (narrower DOF, for a specific aperture and angle of view, for example). But there are other aspects of 4/3rds that cannot be done using full frame (less size, less weight, and less cost for example). Both 4/3rds and full frame seem to take great photographs as long a good photographer is using them. I do not understand your dislike for 4/3rds without any true rational given reasoning for such.

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Nov 30, 2023 22:25:46   #
Canisdirus
 
If I were to recommend a 4/3 system is would be Panasonic...NOT Om-d.

Panasonic is a strong company with a future. Pan has a full frame line with phase AF.

Pan has tech that is going to trickle down from it's FF to it's 4/3.

Om-d has none of that...it has no full frame tech at all to trickle down from...it sits very much alone.

Panasonic...has a bright future.

Om-d is on life support.

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Dec 1, 2023 02:52:49   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
Canisdirus wrote:
If I were to recommend a 4/3 system is would be Panasonic...NOT Om-d.

Panasonic is a strong company with a future. Pan has a full frame line with phase AF.

Pan has tech that is going to trickle down from it's FF to it's 4/3.

Om-d has none of that...it has no full frame tech at all to trickle down from...it sits very much alone.

Panasonic...has a bright future.

Om-d is on life support.


OM Systems doesn’t need any trickle down, their cutting edge technology is already in their M4/3 cameras. They’ve had phase detect AF for years and were the first to offer “bird focus”.

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Dec 1, 2023 08:02:46   #
Canisdirus
 
SuperflyTNT wrote:
OM Systems doesn’t need any trickle down, their cutting edge technology is already in their M4/3 cameras. They’ve had phase detect AF for years and were the first to offer “bird focus”.


Doesn't matter...it's a dead system...the walking dead.

Pan will be around...it's a BIG corporation...and the trickle down is crucial for them...an added benefit Om-d doesn't have.

Om-d is on a wind down...no...they'll never tell you...but there has been very little investment.
It's all pretty much outgoing now.

Four thirds is barely relevant to the photography market...barely registers...but if there will be one corp. left...it won't be Om-d...it will be Panasonic.

Panasonic is the smarter pick.

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Dec 1, 2023 09:40:04   #
moonhawk Loc: Land of Enchantment
 
Don't feed the Trolls. folks.

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Dec 1, 2023 10:55:12   #
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Canisdirus wrote:
Doesn't matter...it's a dead system...the walking dead.

Pan will be around...it's a BIG corporation...and the trickle down is crucial for them...an added benefit Om-d doesn't have.

Om-d is on a wind down...no...they'll never tell you...but there has been very little investment.
It's all pretty much outgoing now.

Four thirds is barely relevant to the photography market...barely registers...but if there will be one corp. left...it won't be Om-d...it will be Panasonic.

Panasonic is the smarter pick.
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Dec 1, 2023 12:32:45   #
Hip Coyote
 
runakid wrote:
How good is the eye detection compared to Nikon's?

Interested in the OM-1 to save weight but hopefully not sacrifice quality.


A quick look at some of your posts shows that you were considering Nikon 850, a Nikon mirrorless Z8, a Sony, an Oly in 2021 (as I recall), and now this. You have the gear you need to shoot BIF...perhaps it is the archer and not the arrow.

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Dec 1, 2023 12:50:36   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
Hip Coyote wrote:
A quick look at some of your posts shows that you were considering Nikon 850, a Nikon mirrorless Z8, a Sony, an Oly in 2021 (as I recall), and now this. You have the gear you need to shoot BIF...perhaps it is the archer and not the arrow.


Most AF systems do benefit from settings changes for specific subject matter. There are probably some videos on YouTube for every brand and model, suggesting settings for particular subjects.

Sean Robinson of Panasonic recently did a Lumix Live podcast on the hybrid PDAF systems in the new S5 II, S5 IIX, and G9 II bodies. He does a lot of motorcycle racing photography, so he has identified particular combinations of settings that work for that, and others that work for portraits, sports action, still life, landscape, birds in flight, animals in brush, etc.

I'm pretty sure there are videos by Nikon, Canon, Sony, Fujifilm, and Olympus experts who have refined their settings for specific purposes.

Using any camera "out of the box" is likely to be hit or miss, depending upon the subject matter.

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Dec 1, 2023 14:04:53   #
Hip Coyote
 
burkphoto wrote:
Most AF systems do benefit from settings changes for specific subject matter. There are probably some videos on YouTube for every brand and model, suggesting settings for particular subjects.

Sean Robinson of Panasonic recently did a Lumix Live podcast on the hybrid PDAF systems in the new S5 II, S5 IIX, and G9 II bodies. He does a lot of motorcycle racing photography, so he has identified particular combinations of settings that work for that, and others that work for portraits, sports action, still life, landscape, birds in flight, animals in brush, etc.

I'm pretty sure there are videos by Nikon, Canon, Sony, Fujifilm, and Olympus experts who have refined their settings for specific purposes.

Using any camera "out of the box" is likely to be hit or miss, depending upon the subject matter.
Most AF systems do benefit from settings changes f... (show quote)


Exactly. I am quite familiar with my Oly gear, but took a little Sony RX100 on a vacation. I was a mess. Should have practiced a lot more ahead of time. I wanted to blame the camera, but I think I found the culprit. It wasn't the camera.

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Dec 1, 2023 15:35:09   #
moonhawk Loc: Land of Enchantment
 
burkphoto wrote:
Most AF systems do benefit from settings changes for specific subject matter. There are probably some videos on YouTube for every brand and model, suggesting settings for particular subjects.

Sean Robinson of Panasonic recently did a Lumix Live podcast on the hybrid PDAF systems in the new S5 II, S5 IIX, and G9 II bodies. He does a lot of motorcycle racing photography, so he has identified particular combinations of settings that work for that, and others that work for portraits, sports action, still life, landscape, birds in flight, animals in brush, etc.

I'm pretty sure there are videos by Nikon, Canon, Sony, Fujifilm, and Olympus experts who have refined their settings for specific purposes.

Using any camera "out of the box" is likely to be hit or miss, depending upon the subject matter.
Most AF systems do benefit from settings changes f... (show quote)


Thank you, Bill.

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Dec 2, 2023 17:33:05   #
wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
 
Hip Coyote wrote:
Exactly. I am quite familiar with my Oly gear, but took a little Sony RX100 on a vacation. I was a mess. Should have practiced a lot more ahead of time. I wanted to blame the camera, but I think I found the culprit. It wasn't the camera.


Geee! That has never happened to any of us! None of us would even take equipment we have never used before and found ourselves confused!

Just like most of us; sometimes we are successful with no instructions or manuals and first time equipment - and other times we are, again, taught a valuable lesson.

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