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Nov 9, 2023 15:21:21   #
joecichjr Loc: Chicago S. Suburbs, Illinois, USA
 
SalvageDiver wrote:
Here is the basic process using PS that's implemented in camera. This is a tutorial by Serge Ramelii from about 10 years ago demonstrating the process. He demonstrates this technique starting at 4:25 minutes into the video. You don't need 30fps, but you do need a large number of images. In this tutorial, he used about 10 images but I will usually use between 30 and 60 shots. It's not like digital images are expensive. Once you have the images stacked into a smart object, you can delete the individual files. A couple of advantages of this method over using an ND filter is that 1) you can control how much blur you want in post by altering the number of images you use in the stack and 2) you use normally exposed images metered by your camera, so you shouldn't under/over expose your image.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNzBNLxLPQY

I originally learned about this method from an old article demonstrating how to increase the optical resolution (not number of pixels) of the image using a very similar technique. The method used the concept of dithering, the same concept used to increase the resolution of the old oscilloscopes which used 8-bit circuitry to get 12-bits of resolution. Reading the article and trying it made me realize that movement would blur the area of the image containing movement. It worked.

There are a number of cellphone apps that use this same concept. I've used an app called 'Hydra" for about 10 years to do this very process in-camera. But there are many more, such as 'Slow Shutter Cam' and 'Shutter Stop'. In the iPhone, you can even use live mode to get the same effect. They all use this same basic method.

Here are a couple of images using an app called Hyrda. Hydra used about 50 images to create the final image. Each image was handheld and used normal daylight exposure with a shutter speed of 1/30s.
Here is the basic process using PS that's implemen... (show quote)


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Nov 9, 2023 16:44:42   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
User ID wrote:
You may not have noticed, and it should pain me to inform you, but back in 1984 .....

Oh never mind. Its always been just a load of ignarint superstition and myth anywho. Might as well keep on keepin on with it.


😜🤪🤣😂🤣

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Nov 11, 2023 10:13:24   #
makurow
 
For contrast, I was taught to use a green filter for B&W. It worked inside well with controlled lighting.

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Nov 11, 2023 13:01:33   #
larryepage Loc: North Texas area
 
makurow wrote:
For contrast, I was taught to use a green filter for B&W. It worked inside well with controlled lighting.


Green will lighten vegetation and increase skin texture ("ruggedize" male portraits). It will also emphasize skin flaws, so is generally not a good choice for female portraiture.

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Nov 11, 2023 13:37:28   #
Bohica Loc: SE Coast of NC
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
For the people who don't really care about the results and are willing to accept the JPEG output. There's plenty of them.


And some photographers like to record an actual image instead of what ever phantasy image they have in their mind

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Nov 11, 2023 13:48:33   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Bohica wrote:
And some photographers like to record an actual image instead of what ever phantasy image they have in their mind


You are what your images say you are.

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Nov 11, 2023 13:51:25   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
wdross wrote:
(I agree with you that the polarizer is not a true filter from what are basic filter modifications of light).

I’m not sure how you are defining “filter”. In Computer Science a “filter” is a program that touches each datum once, sort of as a filter would in a chemistry lab. In that sense, I believe a polarizer is a true filter.

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Nov 11, 2023 14:15:15   #
topcat Loc: Alameda, CA
 
DirtFarmer wrote:
Or for the people who don't know how cameras work and/or don't care how cameras work and just want a picture the easiest way.



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Nov 11, 2023 15:23:41   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
rehess wrote:
I’m not sure how you are defining “filter”. In Computer Science a “filter” is a program that touches each datum once, sort of as a filter would in a chemistry lab. In that sense, I believe a polarizer is a true filter.


Why would you bring up computer science when the conversation is about photography filters?

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Nov 11, 2023 15:29:54   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
SuperflyTNT wrote:
Why would you bring up computer science when the conversation is about photography filters?

I was asking how he was using the term??

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Nov 11, 2023 15:37:35   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
Bohica wrote:
And some photographers like to record an actual image instead of what ever phantasy image they have in their mind


Ah, you’re fairly new here, and apparently in the camp of those that somehow thinks shooting JPEG is more accurately represents the scene.
Buckle up!

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Nov 11, 2023 16:05:26   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
rehess wrote:
I was asking how he was using the term??


And there was no reason to think it might be related to computer science.

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Nov 11, 2023 16:53:01   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
SuperflyTNT wrote:
And there was no reason to think it might be related to computer science.

I asked him how he was using the term, and why a polarizing ‘filter’ didn’t qualify. I didn’t expect such a cross examination from you.

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Nov 11, 2023 17:30:12   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
rehess wrote:
I asked him how he was using the term, and why a polarizing ‘filter’ didn’t qualify. I didn’t expect such a cross examination from you.


Because bringing computer science into it makes no sense.

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Nov 11, 2023 17:50:00   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
SuperflyTNT wrote:
Because bringing computer science into it makes no sense.

As much sense as your continually cross-examining me. [unwatch]

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