rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA

Pentax has said they will have modern film cameras, perhaps this Spring. We will know this Spring.

cindo51

Forgive me for being so limited in my knowledge, but what actual difference will this make his the finished product:" the photograph itself!?

Thanks

Canisdirus

Very simply put...

Rolling shutter sensor (all modern cameras today)...Honda Civic

Global shutter sensor...Ferrari.

BebuLamar

I am one who stays with DSLR/SLR because I like the viewfinder. I don't like EVF. It's about the only thing I don't like in the mirrorless. I certainly love shutterless feature as I always think the shutter is the least accurate component of a camera.

rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA

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rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA

That didn’t answer the question.

In short “rolling shutter” is that effect, seen in old movies, which elongates the tires of race cars. I have seen a slight version of that in a few DSLR photos taken at very fast shutter speeds. Sony will have ‘bragging rights’; we will see if it changes anything substantial.

cindo51

Thanks.. but would a picture look different, both printed on 11x17 paper?

larryepage Loc: North Texas area

It depends. I've taken thousands of images using a focal plane shutter since the mid-1970s. I can recall one (maybe two) images where the function of the shutter cased distortion of my image. Other people, who photograph different subjects in different ways, have likely seen different results.

For most people, "rolling shutter" is either just a topic of conversation or a means to justify spending a large sum of money that is not otherwise justified. It's in the same category as "mirror slap," "shutter shock," and probably a short list of other "problems" invented to promote dissension, justify spending money, and a list of other childish arguments over recent years (and some not-so-recent years).

JimH123 Loc: Morgan Hill, CA

Just google "rolling shutter" and you will see plenty of examples. A plane propeller is the most common example used. Also, when panning a shot to match the speed of something, tall buildings or telephone polls end up leaning. Or even handholding a shot with a telephoto where the camera isn't held steady enough and you are not aimed exactly at the same spot by the time the camera scans the sensor which for many cameras is about 150ms, (that's 0.15 sec!), and it didn't matter that you were using a high shutter speed. Rolling shutter is not uncommon and its a pain.

And mirror slap is indeed a problem with the vibration it causes. It is not hard to see this problem, especially with telephoto or with macro shots.

But if you only shoot using wide to normal lenses and don't shoot fast moving objects or do any panning, then you probably would never see it.

larryepage Loc: North Texas area

Not saying it doesn't exist. Never said that it is never a problem. But for most, it isn't. And having to ask about it is a pretty good sign that it isn't a problem to you.

gwilliams6

I will say it again to you. Use what you have , what you love, what you have already paid for, and be happy.

No one here really cares either way if you buy an MILC camera or not, no one.

Cheers and best to you.

gwilliams6

LOL. LOL. Rolling shutter is very real, and always has been if you shoot certain moving subjects under certain conditions. That is just reality.

If you have never come across this in what and how your shoot, wonderful. But as a longtime pro that shoots ALL subjects, including fast ones, it is something to know how to minimize. Now with a global shutter that will never be an issue again. A real advancement.

Cheers

gwilliams6

Folks, this is a first.

This global shutter camera wont be for everyone's need, and it wont be perfect, no camera from ANY maker is perfect, and perfect for everyone.

I am sure when all independent testers are finished with their in-depth tests, these early Beta-versions of the A9III will have some things that can be improved on. Then Sony has until the actual A9III release at end of February to tweak the final firmware, and any other things that should be addressed before final production models actually go on sale to the public. (B&H says first USA shipping date for the A9III is Feb 23, 2024)

Later global shutter cameras will take their foundation from this camera and improve upon it. I am sure the Canon R1 (if a global shutter camera) and the Sony A1, generation 2 (if a global shutter camera) will be designed to be even better than this A9III in some ways. And IMHO, Nikon and Panasonic wont be left out of this fullframe global shutter market either.

The bottom line is that photography has been truly advanced . Not all subsequent cameras from all makers will have global shutters, that is a given. There are superb mirrorless cameras with stacked sensors and BSI sensors. And still very good DSLRs that still serve many photographers' needs.

This isn't an all global shutter or nothing situation, there is room for all these cameras. But the playing field has changed forever, and that is not a bad thing going forward.

All photographers and photography ultimately benefits.

Cheers and best to you all..

gwilliams6

Jared Polin:
SONY’s MIND-BLOWING ANNOUNCEMENT!!! (WATCH OUT Canon & Nikon?!)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CJ-mTjGQ1Q

Cheers

Littledab Loc: Wyoming

I believe it is 1/80,000 of a second synchronization.