Artists fight back against AI (Page 2): I assume you mean AI photo processing programs and not uses of AI in all fields. If you are talking about text to image AI programs, that is not...

JohnSwanda Loc: San Francisco

brentrh wrote:

No restrictions should be placed on AI it is a tool to be used at the discretion of the photographer

I assume you mean AI photo processing programs and not uses of AI in all fields. If you are talking about text to image AI programs, that is not photography. We need to specify what type of AI we are talking about.

moonhawk Loc: Land of Enchantment

brentrh wrote:

No restrictions should be placed on AI it is a tool to be used at the discretion of the photographer

So developers should be free to use other people's work without permission and or compensation?

dwermske

AI, as a function, is not the issue. As was mentioned earlier, AI is only a tool just like a car, a gun or a knife. Any tool can be misused. The use of AI is pretty much left to the end user. The developer merely creates and improves the tool. The legality of how it is used is up to society to determine. As an individual, I am free to modify and display any image whether it is under a copy-write or not as long as I don't claim it is my original creation and don't try to profit in any way from the results. AI is only going to become more and more prevalent to a point you won't be able to tell an AI image from reality. I expect that to some that a very terrifying thought. Like anything else in our ever evolving world, we either adapt or become obsolete.

brentrh Loc: Deltona, FL

Have a problem understanding why AI is a problem or anything with creative photography used by photographers

larryepage Loc: North Texas area

brentrh wrote:

Have a problem understanding why AI is a problem or anything with creative photography used by photographers

In discussions I have had with artists, the focus always seems to come back to the question, "Whose work is it, then?" There is actually a parallel discussion going on in the art world around machine-aided sculpture, which may or may not even involve artificial intelligence. When it's all done, "who" (or "what") actually made the sculpture? Where did the skill reside? Did the machine accomplish something that is not even possible for a human? (That is the case for some of the machine sculptures.)

I understand that a number of people have a difficult time understanding why this question is even a question. I think a similar number of people are having a hard time understanding why it is even a question.

bflood Loc: Las Vegas, NV

What kind of advantages the hackers can make of AI software has yet to be demonstrated, but you can bet the farm that it's coming.

The death of AI as a business tool will be the liability companies have to shoulder when they let AI make decisions that are implemented without human intervention.

AI is littered with trap doors, but the business world seems to be so enamored of AI that it is ignoring the obvious traps right in front of them. Most be seem to only learn things the hard way. So, the hard way it will be.

Canisdirus

Something similar happened in France a while back when a fellow invented a 'smart' loom around the year 1800.
This future tech loom (used punch cards to instruct the loom...like one of our older computers) could run circles around a human being doing the same job.

The workers answer? Same as with this issue in a way...they threw their wooden shoes into the looms...breaking them.

This will end the same way.

No one chooses looming as a career today.

You know who won.

moonhawk Loc: Land of Enchantment

Use all the AI you want. I don't care. Jusr don't steal my stuff.

GerryER Loc: Virginia USA

They should change the name from AI to IA, Intelligent Algorithm. That's all it really is, a computer algorithm , nothing "artificial" about it.

rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA

jerryc41 wrote:

I remember the great controversy about mandating seatbelt use. "People will be trapped in their cars and drown or be burned alive!"

I also remember the controversy about airbags, something the auto industry fought right to the end. I wonder how many people died needlessly while companies were fighting to keep them out of cars.

This is probably attic material.

Even today, the news talks of riders who are thrown from their cars because they refused to use the seat belts they have.

rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA

Canisdirus wrote:

Something similar happened in France a while back when a fellow invented a 'smart' loom around the year 1800.
This future tech loom (used punch cards to instruct the loom...like one of our older computers) could run circles around a human being doing the same job.

The workers answer? Same as with this issue in a way...they threw their wooden shoes into the looms...breaking them.

This will end the same way.

No one chooses looming as a career today.

Not in richer countries, at least.

I’m not even sure how many people are choosing computer programming as a career; my last permanent position at a College laid off the guy who replaced me and closed down the Department - lack of customers. My last part-time position was teaching ‘clients’ to do the work themselves.

JohnSwanda Loc: San Francisco

rehess wrote:

This is probably attic material.

Even today, the news talks of riders who are thrown from their cars because they refused to use the seat belts they have.

Not really Attic material. Is there anyone today who seriously opposes seat belts or air bags? It was the auto industry all along that didn't want the extra cost.

rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA

JohnSwanda wrote:

Not really Attic material. Is there anyone today who seriously opposes seat belts or air bags? It was the auto industry all along that didn't want the extra cost.

As I said, lots of people don’t bother to use them. Many don’t use them around here. The Congressman from our District was killed in an auto accident. The news changed from ‘the other car was in the wrong lane’ to ‘her car was in the wrong lane’. They never did say whether her seat belt was fastened, but knowing her constituents as I do, I wouldn’t be surprised if none of the people in her car had bothered to fasten their seat belts {it was ‘just a short trip’ thru her district}.

GerryER Loc: Virginia USA

rehess wrote:

As I said, lots of people don’t bother to use them. Many don’t use them around here. The Congressman from our District was killed in an auto accident. The news changed from ‘the other car was in the wrong lane’ to ‘her car was in the wrong lane’. They never did say whether her seat belt was fastened, but knowing her constituents as I do, I wouldn’t be surprised if none of the people in her car had bothered to fasten their seat belts {it was ‘just a short trip’ thru her district}.

It should be any adults choice as to whether you use a seatbelt or not. If you want to raise the odds of getting killed, that is your own business. Too many people and the gov trying to run everybody elses lives. JMO.

rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA

GerryER wrote:

It should be any adults choice as to whether you use a seatbelt or not. If you want to raise the odds of getting killed, that is your own business. Too many people and the gov trying to run everybody elses lives. JMO.

This sort of talk could move this thread to the Attic.