rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA

only if the price is right,
or that is all that is available

Canisdirus

Pentax will buy global shutters...or Pentax will be shuttered...guaranteed.

No going back now...rolling shutter is a dead man walking...still walking...but definitely dead.

rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA

Only if the price is right

Canisdirus

For you?
Again...no one cares.

Pentax will switch or go belly up...or at least relegated to a minor corp...like OM-D

Now OM-D...this may be the final bugle call for them.

rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA

Nobody purchases Pentax expecting good LV photos of action, so it really doesn’t matter. They might purchase a sensor capable of global shutter, but at that scale ‘rolling shutter’ is so uncommon, no one might ever notice.

Grahame Loc: Fiji

So why keep garbling on about your beloved Pentax. Maybe you're trying to take the place of our dearly missed Foveon fan?

gwilliams6

You need to study the tech, there is no mirror or shutter with a global sensor camera . The DSLR is a Digital Single Lens Reflex camera. That "reflex" is the flapping reflex mirror. There is no need for any flapping mirror in a global shutter sensor camera.

And NO ONE said they should discontinue production of DSLRs, that is a whole other discussion that has been in countless UHH threads. DSLRs aren't going away anytime soon IMHO.

The market sales numbers will ultimately determine if, and or when camera makers will discontinue producing DSLRs. As long as folks are still buying them, they will survive IMHO.

But we can say that the future of mirrorless cameras will be global shutters, even if that takes several years to truckle down to all price levels.

In the meantime, use whatever gear you love, whatever works for you, whatever you have already paid for, and be happy.

Cheers and best to you.

rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA

I have known about MILC for about ten years.
I plan to stay with the DSLR and it’s flipping mirror - I have a film SLR that I purchased in 1983 and still takes photos for me, so I have every hope that my KP will last the rest of my life, and I’ll have no reason to purchase a MILC.

JimH123 Loc: Morgan Hill, CA

Nice entry to the camera. But just as I thought. They are only able to do JPEGs. No access to RAW files. The JPEGs don't show any noise or dynamic range problems. But the RAWs are needed to figure out just how good or bad it really is. We will have to wait for production models for those measurements.

For those that know why the RAWs are needed is that JPEGs are subject to in-camera noise reduction and other processing in the camera hiding what the true image started with. RAWs do not get that in-camera processing and can be used to see how this compares with other cameras.

Results should be interesting as it gives us a pretty good idea of how good a job Sony has done on the first release of Global Shutter.

By the time a global shutter is to go into an A1 series or an A7R series, it needs to be really, really good, in addition to being a whole lot more dense, with a lot more data processing.

Also, that brings up the question on just when Sony will start selling these kinds of sensors to other camera manufacturers. And they will. But there is always a time lag that buyers have to wait while Sony gets a good head start. But probably not Canon, since they have their own fab and have been known to be pursuing global shutter. It is unknown what level Canon is currently at. But if the Sony sensor is performing really, really good, it certainly raises the bar that Canon has to clear.

User ID

No idea about which camera you use, but readout speed varies greatly across the marketplace. Ive found the Sony a9 fast enough to greatly minmize rolling shutter effect. Some of my other cameras are noticeably more vulnerable.

User ID

Lucky man.

User ID

You could be more appreciative that its an extreeemely rare privelege to be a Pentax user in the digital era. Theres even a quite popular rumor of Pentax reverting to film.

larryepage Loc: North Texas area

I was in one of my local brick and mortar camera stores today...the one that I have found best when shopping for used equipment. I was looking for a better choice of lens than what I have to complete a D500 gift setup. I received quite a shock to find that almost all new Nikon F mount equipment has been sold or returned (except for a few Sigma choices), and that the used case contained only a small selection of non-mainstream lens choices. (I don't know what was in the used camera cabinet, but it looked pretty thin from a distance as well.)

That shop is currently not buying any mirror box equipment, although they may occasionally be accepting limited numbers of items in trade from established customers. They did not have what I was looking for, which actually included any of a number of different choices. Interestingly enough, their shelves being this bare would require that they have sold a ton of used equipment since my last visit a coupke of months ago.

Of course, this is one store in one market. I plan to visit at least one of the other area stores soon. It will be interesting to see what their situation is, but my immediate response was to recall the almost overnight disappearance of vinyl record albums 30 or 40 years ago.

The market may have already spoken, gated by our retail outlets.

JimH123 Loc: Morgan Hill, CA

Even the 300mm f/2.8 lens is special. About 3.2 lb. When I use my 300mm f/2.8 lens, it is close to 5 lb. And I think I ought to mount it on the front of a fork lift!

Anyway, fun to drool at what the camera can do. But this old, retired engineer at 73 years old has no hope and no justifiable need for a camera like that. I can still photograph hummingbirds - if they stop flapping their wings that is.

But there are many out there that this is the tool they have been waiting for. And this is just the start. Don't know how long before Sony allows other manufacturers to have access to anything like this sensor. And I expect it won't be exactly this sensor that someone will eventually be able to buy. There will likely be a number of options buyers will have to weigh to figure out what they can afford vs the max Sony can build. Security cameras can probably be built with standard sensor stock that Sony can put a part number on, but most cameras will likely be after something more custom rather than something stock. And that is probably not difficult for Sony to do. I'm sure they have very good layout tools that with someone who knows what they are doing, they can create something more custom in short order.

I know Nikon uses their own sensor designers to create custom sensors for Sony to make. But there are new things here that Nikon is going to have to pay Sony in order to put into their design. Just don't know how long Sony will keep saying "Not Yet!".

Canisdirus

He's dug himself a hole and has no idea how to get out of it.