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Oct 28, 2023 09:31:10   #
jcboy3
 
markwilliam1 wrote:
I’m Very confused about AI! Some of the images I’ve seen are fantastic but totally computer generated. Like Landscape photography and models composing that aren’t real but sure looks like it. Are any Pro’s out there concerned about this? BTW I’m just an amateur photographer and do use the Topaz suite which I believe is AI. Just think Big changes are coming….


Topaz is not the sort of AI that produces the images you refer to.

The impact on professional photography will depend upon the purpose and subject of the photography. Documentary photography will not be affected (much); portraits, events, sports, architecture.
Artistic photography will be affected (a lot); advertising, landscape, maybe wildlife.

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Oct 28, 2023 09:33:42   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
jcboy3 wrote:
Topaz is not the sort of AI that produces the images you refer to.

The impact on professional photography will depend upon the purpose and subject of the photography. Documentary photography will not be affected (much); portraits, events, sports, architecture.
Artistic photography will be affected (a lot); advertising, landscape, maybe wildlife.


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Oct 28, 2023 09:40:03   #
Canisdirus
 
There will always be a need for a human photographer...

But the number needed is dropping drastically, and permanently.

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Oct 28, 2023 09:46:24   #
alberio Loc: Casa Grande AZ
 
Longshadow wrote:
Ahhh...
I shorten it to NatGeo.

NG usually means No Good or Natural Gas.......


Hahaha.

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Oct 28, 2023 09:52:00   #
sodapop Loc: Bel Air, MD
 
Synthetic music did not replace music even though it could reproduce virtually all musical instruments. Live music groups and orchestras thrive today. AI will not replace photographers

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Oct 28, 2023 11:02:23   #
markwilliam1
 
JohnSwanda wrote:
I assumed he meant National Geographic.


Yep!

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Oct 28, 2023 11:07:41   #
JohnSwanda Loc: San Francisco
 
sodapop wrote:
Synthetic music did not replace music even though it could reproduce virtually all musical instruments. Live music groups and orchestras thrive today. AI will not replace photographers


It could replace some photographers. Aspiring pro photographers need to do things AI can't do.

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Oct 28, 2023 11:25:35   #
terryMc Loc: Arizona's White Mountains
 
JohnSwanda wrote:
It could replace some photographers. Aspiring pro photographers need to do things AI can't do.


You mean like getting actual images of actual, living people? You mean like recording live events as they happen, rather than creating from nothing an imaginary event that never occurred and calling it "today's game"?

Maybe some day a robot will go out to a football game and record it all, but that will be the elimination of humans, not of photography or cameras. When the corporate model of eliminating humans from all types of production is finally complete and no one is gainfully employed anymore, but socialism is still seen as evil, to whom will the 1,000 or so people who own the factories sell their goods?

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Oct 28, 2023 11:51:04   #
JohnSwanda Loc: San Francisco
 
terryMc wrote:
You mean like getting actual images of actual, living people? You mean like recording live events as they happen, rather than creating from nothing an imaginary event that never occurred and calling it "today's game"?

Maybe some day a robot will go out to a football game and record it all, but that will be the elimination of humans, not of photography or cameras. When the corporate model of eliminating humans from all types of production is finally complete and no one is gainfully employed anymore, but socialism is still seen as evil, to whom will the 1,000 or so people who own the factories sell their goods?
You mean like getting actual images of actual, liv... (show quote)


I'm a retired pro who shot mostly business portraits and business events. Maybe someday they'll build a robot that can put subjects at ease and elicit natural expressions, but I don't think I'll live to see it. But a lot of generic stock photography will probably lose out to AI very soon.

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Oct 28, 2023 11:59:05   #
terryMc Loc: Arizona's White Mountains
 
JohnSwanda wrote:
I'm a retired pro who shot mostly business portraits and business events. Maybe someday they'll build a robot that can put subjects at ease and elicit natural expressions, but I don't think I'll live to see it. But a lot of generic stock photography will probably lose out to AI very soon.


This is where I see it happening as well, but stock photography as it exists today is hardly what you could call a "profession" anymore anyway.

Advertisers who don't need a real human model to sell their product or don't need to show an actual location but just a generic scene, maybe built to specifications, could benefit. When is the last time you saw a car commercial that featured a real car on a real highway in a real place? Probably not when you think. Most of them have been CGI for a long time...

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Oct 28, 2023 13:28:37   #
MJPerini
 
As technology advances in any field Four things always happen:
1 More people have the confidence to DIY
2 Some people no longer see the need to hire a professional
3 Some folks figure out how to use the new tech CREATIVELY
4 People are willing to hire Them to do it better than they can DIY
Now other things happen too, and always some we didn't predict, but generally it is the folks who have become proficient in old technology but lose the creative spark are the ones who get replaced.
Anyone remember being dragged to the Sears Portrait studio for very nice pictures that looked just like your neighbor's Sears portrait?
But today, there are lots of folks doing well making highly personal kid and family portraits without the need of a professional studio overhead.
New stuff always makes some nervous , and others successful.

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Oct 28, 2023 13:44:39   #
texasdigital Loc: Conroe, Texas
 
Perhaps I do not see the point (not uncommon for me), but AI does not threaten me. In fact, I embrace the latest AI technology, since it makes post-processing so much easier. The photography world has been using AI for some time now. Anything AI is capable of has been programmed by a human. While AI can make decisions based on an algorithm humans devised, I don't believe AI can create something from scratch, there must be human intervention at some point.

Having made these astute comments, I am not a professional photographer, and in fact, for the time being, I create for my own pleasure.

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Oct 28, 2023 14:24:20   #
tgreenhaw
 
IMHO, the art and science of photography will continue to be important.

The equipment are tools to record reality as well as express imagination. Generative AI is another artistic expression and commercial art tool. AI does not record reality.

As for those who make their living with a camera there will be little impact as well. Anything that is a recording of reality, e.g. weddings, landscapes, wildlife, etc. is only impacted by better tools that a pro knows how to exploit. Portrait Pro is a good example.

Knowing what to record and express takes a photographer, the tools are just a means to an ends that AI won't replace.

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Oct 28, 2023 14:34:51   #
texasdigital Loc: Conroe, Texas
 
tgreenhaw wrote:
IMHO, the art and science of photography will continue to be important.

The equipment are tools to record reality as well as express imagination. Generative AI is another artistic expression and commercial art tool. AI does not record reality.

As for those who make their living with a camera there will be little impact as well. Anything that is a recording of reality, e.g. weddings, landscapes, wildlife, etc. is only impacted by better tools that a pro knows how to exploit. Portrait Pro is a good example.

Knowing what to record and express takes a photographer, the tools are just a means to an ends that AI won't replace.
IMHO, the art and science of photography will cont... (show quote)



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Oct 28, 2023 14:50:22   #
spaceytracey Loc: East Glacier Park, MT
 
Just think, if you don't care for your future son/daughter-in-law, you can switch them out for a better choice.

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