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Oct 27, 2023 10:29:25   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Why aren't Daytime Running Lights standard on all US cars? So many cars have these lights that it makes non-DRL cars less obvious. They tend to blend into the background. It would save car makers money having one system for every car, rather than having to maintain two different systems.

While I'm talking about headlights, I wish LED headlights would be outlawed. It seems that all trucks - with their higher headlights - have those LEDs. Why do they need them on during daylight? When do they have to use their high beams during the day? I wonder if those headlights had to be approved. Probably not. I flip my nighttime rearview mirror down, and I sometimes tilt the whole mirror down when the lights behind me are too bright.

Sometimes, "safer" is actually more dangerous.
Why aren't Daytime Running Lights standard on all ... (show quote)


For one I like LEDs for all lighting because they use less energy and last so much longer than ancient Incandescent and Quartz or Quartz-Halogen as headlights. Daytime lights (of whatever type) are so others can see you, not so you can see the street or others. Clear weather would be a bit different than in heavy fog. There are two types of systems on currently manufactured cars? I had not noticed since I went from a 2006 to 2020 vehicle.

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Oct 27, 2023 10:37:01   #
terryMc Loc: Arizona's White Mountains
 
Indi wrote:

My Legacy has a nice feature that should be on all cars. It’s Automatic High/Low beams when driving at night. When driving on a dark road, the high beams are on until the sensors detect an oncoming car, taillights, or highly reflective signs.
Your car may have it but you’d have to check the manual for that function’s operation.


I know some cars have this feature, but it is certainly not a new thing. GM first introduced the Autronic Eye on the 1952 Oldsmobile (and I believe, the Cadillac.) It didn't work very well, but they continued to use and refine it until the late 80s. I knew people who had these and they said they would just quit working and the "eye" would sit there useless. In any case, this was long before cars became mobile computers. I'm sure modern systems work much better.

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Oct 27, 2023 12:09:16   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
The key to using HIDs or LEDs without blinding oncoming cars is to either have self leveling lights or European style headlights with a sharp vertical cutoff with an “ear” on the far right to light the roadside. Our 15 year old Lexus came with HID projectors that are self leveling and self steering - the point down as you crest a hill and point in the direction you’re turning the car. Great lights, never had a failure, and no complaints from other drivers.

I converted my other car to HIDs maybe 8 years ago and have had one aftermarket bulb fail (~$20). That car has European style lights with a sharp cutoff and the right “ear”. Excellent visibility and no complaints from other drivers. Here’s an image taken when I was changing showing the standard halogen vs HID - note the sharp cutoff pattern. Measured with a lightmeter, they are ~3x the brightness for the same power consumed. After driving with HIDs, I can’t image driving at night with older Halogens.



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Oct 27, 2023 12:47:56   #
whatdat Loc: Del Valle, Tx.
 
Indi wrote:
I installed LED bulbs in both my Subarus as well as the previous one. The lights that came with my Subies were too dim for night driving especially for my wife who has problems driving at night.
My Legacy has a nice feature that should be on all cars. It’s Automatic High/Low beams when driving at night. When driving on a dark road, the high beams are on until the sensors detect an oncoming car, taillights, or highly reflective signs.
Your car may have it but you’d have to check the manual for that function’s operation.
I installed LED bulbs in both my Subarus as well a... (show quote)


In the 60’s Cadillacs had an “eye” mounted on the top of the dash that automatically dimmed or brightened the headlights when meeting on’coming cars. Didn’t work very well. Every time you approached something reflective they would change. Of course, that was 50-60 years ago, so maybe they have improved.

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Oct 27, 2023 16:36:54   #
Dave H2
 
Hi,
Another youngster here I see. My first car was in 1958.
Have a great week.
Dave

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Oct 27, 2023 18:56:12   #
terryMc Loc: Arizona's White Mountains
 
Dave H2 wrote:
Hi,
Another youngster here I see. My first car was in 1958.
Have a great week.
Dave


Yup. In 1958 I got a 1953 Plymouth Cranbrook 4 dr sedan. I was NOT the envy of my friends who had hartops and convertibles. But my car was a gift from a relative, so...

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