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Oct 20, 2023 11:03:37   #
photoman43
 
leftyD500 wrote:
I hope this question has not been asked before, I hate facing the wrath of those people with photographic minds that remember every post ever made on UHH, but here goes. I like using a lens hood on my lenses. When using a CP filter, it is rather difficult, if not impossible to adjust that filter without taking off the lens hood, adjusting the filter, then replacing the filter. Is there a better way of doing it without taking off that hood? I realize I am not the brightest bulb on the tree, so please spare the ink in trying to prove to me how stupid I am, thanks in advance!
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My solution it to remove the lens hood when I use a polarizer. I put the hood back on when I take off the polarizer and put it away.

If you must have the hood on, there may be a third party lens hood that has a slot in its side to allow you to rotate the polarizer with the hood on.

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Oct 20, 2023 11:18:05   #
Bridges Loc: Memphis, Charleston SC, now Nazareth PA
 
leftyD500 wrote:
I hope this question has not been asked before, I hate facing the wrath of those people with photographic minds that remember every post ever made on UHH, but here goes. I like using a lens hood on my lenses. When using a CP filter, it is rather difficult, if not impossible to adjust that filter without taking off the lens hood, adjusting the filter, then replacing the filter. Is there a better way of doing it without taking off that hood? I realize I am not the brightest bulb on the tree, so please spare the ink in trying to prove to me how stupid I am, thanks in advance!
I hope this question has not been asked before, I ... (show quote)


Purchase a collapsible rubber hood. This screws onto the filter and by rotating the hood, it rotates the filter as well. A second benefit of one of these hoods is that you can seal out extraneous light when photographing through glass. Just hold the hood against the glass and you will find it much better than using a tulip style hood.

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Oct 20, 2023 14:29:43   #
toxdoc42
 
i have circular hoods which mount to the inner threads of the CP, thus, i rotate the entire hood and that rotates the CP.

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Oct 20, 2023 15:29:03   #
tgreenhaw
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
When I google "benefits of using a cpl", I get a few results, more than I'd bother even scanning. Most have various example images showing things like removal of reflections, and then other 'benefits', most of which I'd know / plan to edit into (out of) the image later. Excluding the reflections, when specifically desired, I just don't see the need for the CPL for images I'm capturing in digital RAW and plan to edit digitally.


I recently spent time working with a CPL in anticipation of a trip to Japan where i will be taking some photos though a bus window. I have found the CPL is pretty much useless for window reflections. It does make skies more dramatic, but I agree that it can be done better in post unless you're shooting film.

I did however find that if I'm shooting fish in a pond, it worked really well to reject the blue reflection of the sky so I could reach below the surface.

As for the original post, there isn't an east answer other than adjust the filter, then put on the shade.

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Oct 20, 2023 15:35:17   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
camerapapi wrote:
Longshadow wrote: 'Simplest thing I found was just to remove the hood, adjust the filter, replace the hood..."

I adjust the polarizer WITHOUT the filter and then I fit the filter to the lens when satisfied with my adjustment.


The polarizer IS the filter.

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Oct 20, 2023 15:37:27   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
tgreenhaw wrote:
I recently spent time working with a CPL in anticipation of a trip to Japan where i will be taking some photos though a bus window. I have found the CPL is pretty much useless for window reflections. It does make skies more dramatic, but I agree that it can be done better in post unless you're shooting film.

I did however find that if I'm shooting fish in a pond, it worked really well to reject the blue reflection of the sky so I could reach below the surface.

As for the original post, there isn't an east answer other than adjust the filter, then put on the shade.
I recently spent time working with a CPL in antici... (show quote)


I believe the OP has both changed their UHH user name and reverted to shooting in JPEG, after having a look at their prior posts. The CPL may be more impactful to their shooting style than my RAW approach.

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Oct 20, 2023 15:47:43   #
Alafoto Loc: Montgomery, AL
 
Longshadow wrote:
Well, it it's the same answer for a similar (or same) question, go ahead and repeat one's self.
(I don't memorize all questions or responses.)

I had a calculus teacher in college, when if someone asked a question about a certain problem on a page in the text book, he'd look in his textbook and would say "I already did that one, any other questions?".
(We hated that.....)


This is a total digression from the subject, but my pet peeve about college instructors is that Dr. Schnitzelgrubotzky may be a renowned expert in his field, but if he can't speak understandable English, he can't impart that knowledge to me. I could get most of the same information from the text and save the cost of the course.

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Oct 20, 2023 15:59:16   #
toxdoc42
 
tgreenhaw wrote:
I recently spent time working with a CPL in anticipation of a trip to Japan where i will be taking some photos though a bus window. I have found the CPL is pretty much useless for window reflections. It does make skies more dramatic, but I agree that it can be done better in post unless you're shooting film.

I did however find that if I'm shooting fish in a pond, it worked really well to reject the blue reflection of the sky so I could reach below the surface.

As for the original post, there isn't an east answer other than adjust the filter, then put on the shade.
I recently spent time working with a CPL in antici... (show quote)


I use it in museums a lot, it is great use,you might not get rid of all reflections, but maybe st, depends ng on your exact angle, etc.

Shooting through a bus window is different. There is a special rubber lens hood that you can get which helps.

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Oct 20, 2023 16:12:06   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Alafoto wrote:
This is a total digression from the subject, but my pet peeve about college instructors is that Dr. Schnitzelgrubotzky may be a renowned expert in his field, but if he can't speak understandable English, he can't impart that knowledge to me. I could get most of the same information from the text and save the cost of the course.


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Oct 20, 2023 17:14:52   #
joecichjr Loc: Chicago S. Suburbs, Illinois, USA
 
billnikon wrote:
Minolta and now Sony supplies a small window on the side of some of their hoods that once slide open you can rotate the CP filter or variable ND filter using your finger.
But when using my warming filter/enhancing and CP filter combo for fall leaves, I leave the lens hood off on my Sony 24-105 mm lens.
I find most of the time I leave the lens hood off while using any enhancing type filters. It is just plain easier.
Good luck and keep on shooting until the end.


Top-notch shot

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Oct 20, 2023 17:41:48   #
JimH123 Loc: Morgan Hill, CA
 
Longshadow wrote:
Like a collapsible rubber hood.


This is how I do it. EBay is a good source, and have a number them in different thread sizes.

If the rubber hood causes vignetting, use a step up ring and a larger rubber hood.

But this brings up another problem. I have a drawer full of dedicated lens hoods for which I no longer remember which lens they go to.

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Oct 20, 2023 18:00:13   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
DirtFarmer wrote:
My camera has only hit the ground once. It was in the field on a tripod and the wind blew it over. It hit the ground lens down. The hood took the hit, not the lens.

The hood is not only for stray light.


You are correct, the lens hood excels at front element and thread protection. Most folks don't realize how hard and resilient the front element is. Sadly there UV or clear filter shatters and they then claim that it kept the front element from doing the same, but the truth is the front element of a lens is very resilient.
Any one who claims that a UV filter make good protection for the front element of a lens needs to see this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0CLPTd6Bds

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Oct 20, 2023 18:22:46   #
wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
 
Blueduck wrote:
You can use a finger cot or one of the covers people use when counting money. They are blue silicon or rubber and have little nubs on them for a no slip effect . I use one and they don't leave a mark on the filter.



Neat idea! Can't hurt in holding the camera either!

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Oct 20, 2023 18:31:15   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
leftyD500 wrote:
I hope this question has not been asked before, I hate facing the wrath of those people with photographic minds that remember every post ever made on UHH, but here goes. I like using a lens hood on my lenses. When using a CP filter, it is rather difficult, if not impossible to adjust that filter without taking off the lens hood, adjusting the filter, then replacing the filter. Is there a better way of doing it without taking off that hood? I realize I am not the brightest bulb on the tree, so please spare the ink in trying to prove to me how stupid I am, thanks in advance!
I hope this question has not been asked before, I ... (show quote)


Several of my B&W CP filters can easily be turned with the tip of one of my finger on the front edge of the filter, if the hood is on, as long as it is not a deep hood, I can easily turn the CP filer while looking through my viewfinder. My B&W filters are ribbed on the front edge making it easy to grip the filter and turn it with one finger. NOT THE MIDDLE ONE.

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Oct 20, 2023 21:00:32   #
E.L.. Shapiro Loc: Ottawa, Ontario Canada
 
Much ado about nothing?

I can understand the inconvenience of attempting to precisely and and visually operate and adjust the effect of a CLP filter with a lens shade in place. There are, however certain aspects of photography that require time and patience. My first reaction to the question is "Don't be lazy and remove and replace the filter and shade as required". After all, it's no big deal if you are shooting a static subject- architecture, landscapes, cars at an automotive show, still life, etc.

If you are utilizing your CPL filter in hand-held rapid-fire shooting, you will need to create an adaption that is not complicated or cumbersome.

Of course, there are simple adaptations using a rubber lens shade attached to the female threads (on the front of some filters) or carefully removing the rubber component from its ring and somehow affixing it to the outer rim of the filter.

I have several square filter holders made by Cokin, that allow for the rotation of a polarizing filter (also made by Cokin) with knurled rims, that also can be fitted with a lens shade.

Obviously, the CPL filter and the shade must be compatible with the focal length in use so as to avoid vignetting.

I must admit that I am a bit of a hoarder when it comes to old lens attachments- I have a drawer full of assorted step-up and step-down rings, adapter rings, and old lens shades and frames from discarded filters. It is easy and fun to rig up just about any practical configuration.

Visual observation of the exact effect of polarization is far more precise and easier than doing the geometry and trying to figure out the exact degree of reflection negation, saturation, sky-darkening effect, and the effect on glass and water. There are many possible incremental settings between no major effect and maximum polarization. Trust your eyes!

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