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Bienno, Italy. Is this over processed?
Oct 13, 2023 01:08:19   #
home brewer Loc: Fort Wayne, Indiana
 
It has been very hazy sine we got to Northern Italy. Attached are before and after. All I did was adjust Haze in Lightroom classic. As I said in the past I find photo editing difficult on the small screen on the MacBook Pro. I have not attempted to adjust shadows or make that dish and pole disappear. For some reason the adjusted shot is not level on the post but is level on the MacBook screen. Bienno is a very beautiful city


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Oct 13, 2023 04:20:42   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
The only thing that jumps out at me (apart from the tilt) is that the blue of the sky is too saturated (and possibly a little too dark). You should be able to address those issues with an HSL tool or whatever the mac equivalent is. On its own, desaturating blue may be enough but if it's not and you want to moderate the desaturation, brighten blue a little as well.

There is also some diffuse bright haloing which is probably due to the dehaze. You could try backing off with the dehaze and adding some halo-neutral *Contrast of your own.

* (The Contrast slider doesn't create haloing but it will aggravate any that already exists. Clarity, Dehaze and HDR merging are the usual suspects where diffuse haloing is concerned).

Alternatively you could select the sky and applying some negative Clarity (going left with the Clarity slider). If you do go down that road you could apply the desaturation via the selection as opposed to applying it globally via the HSL tool. Lifting the shadows might work better than increasing the brightness for that selection.

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Oct 13, 2023 08:14:12   #
Don, the 2nd son Loc: Crowded Florida
 
Looks good to me except for the tilt. But, I grew up on Kodachrome & Fujichrome which dueled on producing the most saturated colors.

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Oct 13, 2023 08:16:47   #
Just Fred Loc: Darwin's Waiting Room
 
Yes.

I might adjust the sky a bit, but to me the overall image screams "processed."

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Oct 13, 2023 09:41:40   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
home brewer wrote:
It has been very hazy sine we got to Northern Italy. Attached are before and after. All I did was adjust Haze in Lightroom classic. As I said in the past I find photo editing difficult on the small screen on the MacBook Pro. I have not attempted to adjust shadows or make that dish and pole disappear. For some reason the adjusted shot is not level on the post but is level on the MacBook screen. Bienno is a very beautiful city


The 'level' image on your MacBook is probably just how you're holding the device, leaving the image tilted when changed. You might just use the HSL sliders in LR to lower the Saturation and increase the Luminance of the blue of the sky. If the color is still blue deep blue, or goes too green toward Cyan, the adjust the Hue back to the desired result.

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Oct 13, 2023 11:21:26   #
home brewer Loc: Fort Wayne, Indiana
 
Looking again the building is out of plumb. I think it was too late in the day when I processed the shot. When I get home I will process the shot and others.
thanks to all that commented

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Oct 13, 2023 14:39:27   #
Dalbon
 
home brewer wrote:
It has been very hazy sine we got to Northern Italy. Attached are before and after. All I did was adjust Haze in Lightroom classic. As I said in the past I find photo editing difficult on the small screen on the MacBook Pro. I have not attempted to adjust shadows or make that dish and pole disappear. For some reason the adjusted shot is not level on the post but is level on the MacBook screen. Bienno is a very beautiful city


If you like it then it's fine but for me the biggest thing is the sky is just a little too saturated.
David

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Oct 13, 2023 15:20:51   #
joecichjr Loc: Chicago S. Suburbs, Illinois, USA
 
home brewer wrote:
It has been very hazy sine we got to Northern Italy. Attached are before and after. All I did was adjust Haze in Lightroom classic. As I said in the past I find photo editing difficult on the small screen on the MacBook Pro. I have not attempted to adjust shadows or make that dish and pole disappear. For some reason the adjusted shot is not level on the post but is level on the MacBook screen. Bienno is a very beautiful city


IMHO, either one is a standout šŸ’™šŸ’™šŸ’™šŸ’™šŸ’™

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Oct 13, 2023 15:41:24   #
SalvageDiver Loc: Huntington Beach CA
 
home brewer wrote:
It has been very hazy sine we got to Northern Italy. Attached are before and after. All I did was adjust Haze in Lightroom classic. As I said in the past I find photo editing difficult on the small screen on the MacBook Pro. I have not attempted to adjust shadows or make that dish and pole disappear. For some reason the adjusted shot is not level on the post but is level on the MacBook screen. Bienno is a very beautiful city

Is this over processed?


This is a very interesting scene and you captured the home/villa very well. There are nice colors and a lot of beautiful textures in the wall structures. The layered background scenery provides a very nice sense of place.

Without saying, the image is tilted and there is a little bit of keystoning, meaning that you had a little tilt to the camera causing lines to converge. But it is very light. You can easily straighten the image using the crop and correct the slight keystoning with the tools found in the Geometry panel of LR. I also use a MacBook to do all my editing, but I havenā€™t had a problem with the screen being too small. Obviously, you mileage varies.

To answer your original question, ā€œIs this over processed?ā€. You will only get opinions because each observer has different preferences and likes/dislikes. So I can only give you my opinion.

In my opinion and based on my own preferences for this image, I think itā€™s over-processed.

Here are the over-processing issues I see with your edit:

1) The sky is significantly oversaturated. In the histogram, you can see that the blue channel is clipped so as you change exposure, you also introduce a hue change.

2) The red channel is clipped in the light areas of the yellow/orange wall colors. Besides being slightly oversaturated, this causes a hue change as you change exposure. Unless one was there to actually see it, they wouldnā€™t recognize it, since itā€™s not a natural occurrence, like the sky.

3) Overly contrasty, losing details in the shadows. The dehaze slider affects a lot if different characteristics of the image and it should be used sparingly. Increasing blue tones and contrast is just a couple of effects that can be easily overdone with this slider.

4) Another consideration is the layering of the background mountains. The farther objects should be lighter and exhibit less texture and clarity than the near objects. By overly using the dehaze slider, the distant mountains now have more detail and clarity than the nearer mountains. Also using dehaze exclusively, there is a huge halo around the mountain edges and the house on the right; another effect of over-processing.

5). There are a lot of little distracting details, such as the antenna, dish, bright green pot on the railing, clothes hanging behind the front gate, bright house in the hills, etc. I know you said that you didnā€™t get to this items yet. But I tried using Photoshopā€™s new ā€˜AI Removeā€™ tool to remove those distractions. That tool makes it extremely easy to remove elements from an image and leave a natural looking result behind. Beats all the other methods by far.

Hope this helps.

Mike

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Oct 14, 2023 13:50:18   #
Carl1024 Loc: Kaneohe, HI 96744
 
home brewer wrote:
It has been very hazy sine we got to Northern Italy. Attached are before and after. All I did was adjust Haze in Lightroom classic. As I said in the past I find photo editing difficult on the small screen on the MacBook Pro. I have not attempted to adjust shadows or make that dish and pole disappear. For some reason the adjusted shot is not level on the post but is level on the MacBook screen. Bienno is a very beautiful city


the 2nd pix is more like it?

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