travelwp Loc: New Jersey

Newsweek: Gas Prices Rise to $7 at California Stations.

Thanks Joe.

thom w Loc: San Jose, CA

Maybe, but I haven't seen it that high. What is it you believe Biden did to raise the price of gas? Seems to me that OPEC, and Shell, and Chevron, and Exxon have a lot more to do with the price of gas than any president. I guess if the president could order people out of their cars the price of gas would probably drop. Would you want him to do that?

Triple G

Rising prices is supposed to curb demand and change behaviors. I just did my trek from TN thru KY, IN, IL, WI and return and there were plenty of other tourists out. A festival in Louisville meant no hotel rooms to be had and were at escalated prices. It's not a normal market.

Greece has gone mostly to hybrid small cars and the roads are packed even with sky high prices. People do what they want to do, I guess.

srg

It seems obvious to twerp, that Biden is more powerful than any oil company or train or speeding bullet.

travelwp Loc: New Jersey

Bidem told the world that the United States will switch to electric vehicles by a certain date. If you were in the fossil fuel business wouldn't you want to make as much money as you can before this happens?

The Aardvark Is Ready

He not only said that, he said he was going to eliminate fossil fuels altogether.

The Aardvark Is Ready

Liberals, always first with the insults.

The Aardvark Is Ready

The simple fact is that the president gets blame for a lot of things that are beyond his control. That's just the way it is. Now tell me you wouldn't be blaming Trump for high gas prices.
https://cepr.net/high-gas-prices-are-donald-trumps-fault/

aphelps Loc: Central Ohio

That would kill the economy like nothing else he has tried.

thom w Loc: San Jose, CA

Who told you that? There are lots of cars in the world that aren't in the US and Biden has no control over them. What ever the date is here it's a date for manufacturing to stop. There will be ICE cars on the road for years to come. I'm not sure if congress made such a law, but Biden couldn't just will it to happen. Even if he could the date is beyond when he will be out of office and a future president could undo any executive order. I'm assuming you have no children or grand children, because if you did you would that was habitable. How simple life must be for you. When everyday is a whole new world, you only need one movie and you can watch it every day and be entertained. Though I do worry a bit about if you drive.

thom w Loc: San Jose, CA

If he wanted to, how would he accomplish it?

Angry About Stalled Progress on Fossil Fuels? Biden’s Not the Culprit.
Sorry, no president can single-handedly fix climate policy. And certainly not with this Supreme Court.
With Biden two-thirds of the way through his term in office, he seems to be catching a lot of flack from climate activists. On Sunday, thousands of angry demonstrators gathered to protest Biden’s U.N. visit. “If you want our vote if you don’t want the blood of our generations to be on your hands, end fossil fuels.” Another said the president “is in a unique position to be a leader to end the fossil fuel movement globally.” Echoing the protesters, an op-ed in yesterday’s NY Times called America “the colossus that stands in the way of a planetary crackdown on emissions,” and demanded that Biden take unilateral action “with urgency and strength” against fossil fuels.

The illusion that Presidents are all-powerful is one that they themselves have cultivated. But the demonstrators are fooling themselves if they think that Biden, acting alone, could be the solution. There are three big reasons why his options are very limited.

The first reason is the Supreme Court. Yes, Biden could declare a climate emergency and issue orders banning fossil fuel exports, canceling oil leases, and stopping fossil fuel investing abroad. These orders would remain in effect for only a few hours before district judges appointed by Trump issued temporary restraining orders.

And it’s no secret what the Supreme Court would do. Remember this is the same Supreme Court that overturned efforts during the COVID emergency to require nationwide vaccination, halt evictions, and cancel student loans. It’s also the Supreme Court that tossed out Obama’s very moderate climate regulation, the Clean Power Plan, because it was aimed at reducing the use of coal. If Biden did take the kind of emergency measures advocates want, those measures would be doomed to go down in flames on 6-3 votes.

The second reason is politics. Don’t forget that Biden is now virtually tied with Donald Trump. He can’t afford to do anything to loose votes in swing states like Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, and Pennsylvania. And there’s a real risk of another Republican trifecta that would give Trump unified control of the government. Those outcomes would be devastating for climate policy. It’s often said that the Perfect is in the enemy of the Good. In this case, the Perfect might be the best friend of the Really, Really Bad.

The third reason is that the U.S. is no longer the global hegemon, if it ever was. It is delusional to think that the U.S. is the “colossus” preventing a global crackdown on emissions. Eighty-five percent of the world’s carbon emissions come from other countries. China, not the US, is the world’s largest carbon emitter. And while the U.S. is the biggest single oil producer, it has less than a fifth of the global market, and would have even less if OPEC+ weren’t cutting production to boost prices. In short, the U.S., while still a very powerful player in geopolitics, is far from being the kingpin.

What we need is not attacks on leaders who are supporting climate action. What we need instead are challenges to the forces fighting climate action, and campaigns to change the hearts and minds of Americans who aren’t yet convinced of the need for climate action.

https://legal-planet.org/2023/09/20/why-the-anger-against-biden-is-misplaced/#:~:text=Yes%2C%20Biden%20could%20declare%20a,Trump%20issued%20temporary%20restraining%20orders.

California (not run by Biden) is banning the sales of ICE powered cars in 2035, as are several other states. I can find no reference of a federal law banning them

thom w Loc: San Jose, CA

If he took some action that caused it, yes I would. Otherwise, no. Things don't have to be made up about Trump. If you have to make stuff up about your opponent, they must not be too bad. Making stuff up just shows you have a weak hand,

thom w Loc: San Jose, CA

As to your link, unless you can show that it is false, it seems very legitimate.

The Aardvark Is Ready

Why did you post that long response that I'm not going to read? Not because I have anything against reading something you posted. I have something against reading something that is irrelevant. Did Biden say it or not? I didn't make it up.

thom w Loc: San Jose, CA

I didn't find that he did. I'm not going to say that, that proves that he didn't. If he did, it doesn't have any teeth, and oil producers would know that. It was important enough to me to put a little bit of time on. It wasn't important enough to me to spend a great deal of time. I'm not going to insult you. There is the feeling I have about you, and there is what I really know about you, Whatever I feel shouldn't be of interest to anyone. What I know about you, isn't a great deal.

By the way, I read it before I posted it. I try to always do that, but sometimes I get sloppy.