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Sep 1, 2023 13:56:07   #
Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.
 
JohnSwanda wrote:
It also means "against", usually athletic or legal use, but it usually applies in these arguments also.


Both at the same time

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Sep 1, 2023 13:57:21   #
pithydoug Loc: Catskill Mountains, NY
 
Bill Hancock wrote:
I have been dabbling in AI photography for a little while now and it has made me wonder is landscape photography might be on the way out, by a paid photographer that is. I am curious to know what others think on the subject. I have displayed an AI photo for you guys to look at. I have not tried to do anything spectacular. I am just testing the waters, so to speak, to see what AI can do. What do you folks think?


Whether we like it or not, being paid for photos for advertisement will likely dwindle. Sorry, it's all about profit and if it's cheap to generate your own, I suspect it will dwindle to just philographers who appreciate the art! We went from outhouses to indoor plumbing, horse and buggy to cars, Tv antennas to cable, etc etc.

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Sep 1, 2023 14:14:16   #
Rokko Loc: Minneapolis
 
Longshadow wrote:
Like everyone would know that?
I didn't.
Don't care either, nice picture.


Not everyone would see the problems I did, but may people who have spent a lot of time observing nature would.

The OP used AI to produce a landscape image and then asked what readers thought of it.

Some readers have commented negatively on technical aspects of the picture. My comments went to content. Those comments all directly address the OP's question. The picture is pleasant, but discerning viewers will see that some of what the AI did was problematic.

Some people, including you, like the picture. You and others are certainly entitled to like it. To each his own.

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Sep 1, 2023 14:20:37   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Rokko wrote:
Not everyone would see the problems I did, but may people who have spent a lot of time observing nature would.

The OP used AI to produce a landscape image and then asked what readers thought of it.

Some readers have commented negatively on technical aspects of the picture. My comments went to content. Those comments all directly address the OP's question. The picture is pleasant, but discerning viewers will see that some of what the AI did was problematic.

Some people, including you, like the picture. You and others are certainly entitled to like it. To each his own.
Not everyone would see the problems I did, but may... (show quote)

Yes, it's so interesting to see so many variations on viewer's perceptions.

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Sep 1, 2023 14:21:16   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
JohnSwanda wrote:
In some cases, like the travel industry, the landscape is the product. Will people accept fake images of places they are being asked to visit?


If it is approximately correct they precisely will.
Does a hamburger from Burger King look like the advertised?
A lawsuit is going on now but how many complaints are there?
None except for the fruit loop trying to make the news. Millions will be sold today, tomorrow and on.
Same with other photos let alone the landscape.
Will the same birds, animals and sexy bikini clad women be there? I bet it is more likely crowded beaches with fat old people lines of cars and dozens pushing each other around to get the cell phone shot of the buffalo or the canyon etc.

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Sep 1, 2023 14:27:08   #
srt101fan
 
Mac wrote:
Versus means in comparison to or in contrast to.
As in Artificial Intelligence vs Natural (Real) Intelligence


I’m just trying to figure out why some people are so concerned about AI intruding in the photographic universe. What are the specific “threats”. 🤔

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Sep 1, 2023 14:29:26   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
srt101fan wrote:
I’m just trying to figure out why some people are so concerned about AI intruding in the photographic universe. What are the specific “threats”. 🤔



Simply an additional tool in the toolbox.

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Sep 1, 2023 14:44:22   #
bittermelon
 
srt101fan wrote:
I’m just trying to figure out why some people are so concerned about AI intruding in the photographic universe. What are the specific “threats”. 🤔


Maybe not in landscape, but certainly immense possibility of threats in news photography and videography.

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Sep 1, 2023 15:10:13   #
E.L.. Shapiro Loc: Ottawa, Ontario Canada
 
6 pages and more to come- not a bad conversation.

So, the picture post by OP is a nice scene but it ain't photography in the traditional sense. It might as well have been a painting, a watercolor, a pastel, or whatever medium. In other mediums and art forms, we accept brushstrokes, various interpretations, representations, abstractions, or impressions of water, foliage, ducks, or whatever. In a PHOTOGRAPH some of us wanthe water to run off the print or screen and the duck to QUACK!

So there is photography, painting, graphics, sculpture, basket weaving, and AI- all separated?

As for "landscape"photogahy being sold commercially. Who are the buyers? If they are aficionados of fine art photogahy, they will stick to photography. Calander publishers? May go Ai if it is cheaper unless the are theme clanders- dogs, pussycats, flowers, whatever. National Geographic- AI? I don't think so!

In commercial photography for advertising, etc. That's what I do for a living. Will my entire lot be replaced by robots? Not anytime soon. It's just that the folks who want to stay in the game will have to up the game and produce products that robots cannot. Human relations are still part of business life. Add agencies and advertisers still need to appeal to potential clients and they need to come up with creative concepts. These concepts will oftentimes be presented to commercial photographers who have to create the visuals. In many cases that is still the stuff of HUMAN emotion, creativity, and teamwork.

Photojournalism? I have not yet seen a robot with a press card! Sadly, it wouldn't be a bad idea, many photojournalists have been killed in war zones.

Not using photography for advertising illustration is not new. There are some high fashion retailers who prefer "fashion illustration" and sometimes pen and ink drawings just to show the lines and concept of a garment that a detailed photogahy. AI might be the way the go!

AI is comparatively new in the general photography scene. New things oftentimes become the latest "bogeymen that are going to destroy or endanger traditional photography". There are still some reactionary folks who feel digital photogahy ain't real. After a while, all the new technologies find their niche somewhere in traditional photography work either as a part of the process or as special effects. Some folks will utilize them and some will not!

There will always be a market for traditional photography. The people who want to be paid for their work have to get better at it and market it more effectively. Commercial photographers are not brain surgeons, rocket scientists, or lawyers. We do not deal in life or death, space travel, or justice. We are artists, craftspersons, and/or technicians and we have a product/service to sell and we need to keep it desirable. If you are a hobbyist/enthusiast-worry not! You can take AI or leave it- the robots ain't coming for your camera or your enjoyment of the craft!

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Sep 1, 2023 15:17:13   #
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billnikon wrote:
Landscape photography is here to stay for PROFESSIONLS.

ROTFLMFAO

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Sep 1, 2023 15:18:29   #
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Linda From Maine wrote:
What percent of the working population of the world makes their living with landscape photography? A meaningless teensy-tiny percent. Nobody else is going to care.

Exactly. Hardly a "profession".

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Sep 1, 2023 15:22:41   #
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srt101fan wrote:
Mac wrote:
There is no such thing as AI photography. There is AI and there is photography.



This has been hashed and rehashed. My thoughts:

1. An image entirely created by AI in response to a descriptive command is obviously not a photograph any more than a painting is. It is an image created in a new medium who’s only connection to photography is that photos may have been used to train the AI.

2. Using AI as part of photo-editing is an entirely different story. Is a photograph manipulated with AI no longer a photograph? Does it depend on the degree to which it was manipulated? We can argue all that until the cows come home.

3. Gazing into the future, one can imagine a robot servant outfitted with photo gear trapsing off to take pictures of your tomato patch. Maybe that future is already here: “Hey, Droney, go fly over to the cow pasture and bring back some pictures!”

I think tomorrow got here before we were done with yesterday….
Mac wrote: br There is no such thing as AI photogr... (show quote)

We can quibble about your main points, but that last line really sums it up very well. No argument about that part !

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Sep 1, 2023 15:25:58   #
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Bill Hancock wrote:
This image is totally AI generated using Generative Fill. I wasn't trying to pass this off as a genuine photograph; just an example of what is coming. Sorry if I have offended anyone.
There a solid contingent of Hawgsters who just love to feel offended ... nothing to apologize about. You give them reason to live !

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Sep 1, 2023 15:29:07   #
cahale Loc: San Angelo, TX
 
Bill Hancock wrote:
I have been dabbling in AI photography for a little while now and it has made me wonder is landscape photography might be on the way out, by a paid photographer that is. I am curious to know what others think on the subject. I have displayed an AI photo for you guys to look at. I have not tried to do anything spectacular. I am just testing the waters, so to speak, to see what AI can do. What do you folks think?


Where is landscape photography headed?

Hopefully to landscapes.

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Sep 1, 2023 15:29:11   #
Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.
 
srt101fan wrote:
I’m just trying to figure out why some people are so concerned about AI intruding in the photographic universe. What are the specific “threats”. 🤔


An AI image is not a photograph, and should not be called a photograph. Look up the etymology of the word photograph: https://www.etymonline.com/word/photography
A photograph that is post processed using AI is an AI modified photograph.

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