Michigan House passes bill making wrong pronouns a felony, fineable up to $10,000 (Page 2): Does that mean that we can't call Buckeye football players a bunch of girls anymore?

SteveR Loc: Michigan

Does that mean that we can't call Buckeye football players a bunch of girls anymore?

mwalsh Loc: Houston

So comforting to know our self-appointed grammar cop is on patrol.

Well, at least she patrols the lefties...a bit biased.

btbg

FrumCA wrote:

The left is losing (has lost) it with this legislation. They got it right with the legislation they passed banning 'conversion therapy'. By the time a person is passing out the age of being a minor, it's probably too late and therefore, moot. But it may help prevent someone from convincing a very impressionable youngster to convert.

You need to get a better understanding of what they mean by conversion therapy. It is legal for a gay or transgender to encourage a young person to switch lifestyles. What is illegal in conversion therapy law is to take someone usually under the age of 18 and attempt to change their choice back to straight.

That includes the parents trying to help their child. They did not get it right in the conversion therapy laws as it takes away from parental rights.

FrumCA

btbg wrote:

You need to get a better understanding of what they mean by conversion therapy. It is legal for a gay or transgender to encourage a young person to switch lifestyles. What is illegal in conversion therapy law is to take someone usually under the age of 18 and attempt to change their choice back to straight.

That includes the parents trying to help their child. They did not get it right in the conversion therapy laws as it takes away from parental rights.

We disagree. I did not raise any issues regarding legality. There is nothing in the "conversion therapy" literature that makes it illegal to attempt to change someone's choice, nor can I find anything that takes away from parental rights. As a matter of fact, it's more likely that the parent would refer their child to therapy if they were unsuccessful in changing the child's attraction to the same sex, or their gender identity and expression if they feel it's wrong.

Amielee Loc: Eastern Washington State

pendennis wrote:

This piece of insanity has not yet passed the Michigan Senate. Hopefully, someone with an IQ greater than that of a kumquat will kill it there.

I spoke to one of their Democratic Representatives and she told me this law was not directed at people. Pronouns get paid for being nouns and they should know better. If pronouns (after getting paid to be nouns) can't behave themselves they deserve to be punished. Just though all of you should know her thoughts.