BooIsMyCat Loc: Somewhere

Is that what was said?

BooIsMyCat Loc: Somewhere

You can also conceal carry into bars in TN... and other states.

This law makes absolutely no sense what-so-ever! The requirement of "complete sobriety" is a joke. What is the purpose of entering a bar if it is NOT to drink?

I'm sure the AHs like wnyshooter will be able to explain.

Triple G

Insurance is different than laws and applies to commercial gun shows. Whole different can of worms for the gun sellers and NRA. Thanks for pointing us in the insurance direction for research on what retail insurance and event insurance coverages are required.


http://www.thegunmag.com/insurance-concerns-threaten-future-gun-shows/
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2015/11/04/nra-enters-debate-gun-shows-fairgrounds/75190872/

I realize these are probably outdated, but I'll bet it will get renewed exposure in the news as the summer gun and flea market events ramp up.

LDB415 Loc: Houston south suburb

Ok, so anyone entering a bar should be required to relinquish their car keys and not get them back until they blow a zero breathalyzer because a car is absolutely a deadly weapon and we can't trust someone to meet friends for one drink and then operate/possess/control a deadly weapon now can we.

wilpharm Loc: Oklahoma

yes

Triple G

Many businesses make that their policy.

https://www.wthr.com/article/news/local/nra-convention-downtown-indianapolis-some-businesses-stickers-no-carry-guns/531-f551804b-e1f8-4f01-8efe-c267daa25bec

Frank T Loc: New York, NY

Although comparing guns to cars is a bit ridiculous, let's do it just for fun.
1. There have been numerous court cases throughout the country regarding bartenders serving inebriated customers.
2. There have been numerous court cases where the bartender or host was held liable for serving an intoxicated person who left their bar or residence and got into an accident while operating a vehicle while intoxicated.
3. Bartenders, in many states must undergo training regarding serving alcohol and in particular serving alcohol to obviously intoxicated persons.

So let's carry these precedents over to people carrying firearms, and hold not just the inebriated person liable for his actions but extend that to the person serving them alcohol.

Seems completely logical to me. One problem would be that people would violate the rules by carrying a weapon concealed, into a bar without the knowledge of the proprietor, and in violation of the established rules.

In that case, there needs to be a separate criminal charge for that action and as there is no law addressing that, another law will have to be passed.

Yes, it's all very difficult, but so is telling a mother that her child won't be coming home because he was shot by a drunk.

scooter1 Loc: Yacolt, Wa.

Just when you think you've heard the craziest thing said you, little boo, pop up with this and blow it out of the water. "You would have to do away with gun shows in red states as many purchases there are not taxed or reported". Wow and you actually put this in writing. Do you honestly believe this or are you just trolling?

WNYShooter Loc: WNY

Driving is not a constitutional right, so your comparison is complete bogus, as are most all of your ridiculous arguments.

scooter1 Loc: Yacolt, Wa.

WNYShooter Loc: WNY

Plenty of people go into bars and don't drink alcohol--that's why they serve non-alcoholic drinks. I know tons of musicians who play in bars regularly and never touch a drop of alcohol. A great many bars serve food, and many go there for just that.

I will never understand your imbecilic idea that making sure a business or area is considered gun free based on some arbitrary reasoning automatically makes people safer. Statistically, the majority of criminal scumbags who have intentionally committed mass shootings, specifically targeted places where they knew most if not all would be unarmed, as those law-abiding folks would be following the well-intentioned but completely STUPID designation of "Gun Free Zone".

The more accurate label for these designated areas is "Defenseless Victim Zone."

LDB415 Loc: Houston south suburb

Yes. That. Or prime target area. But leftists do love their fantasy that gun free means safe.

Triple G

Live in a red state and you'll hear many work around stories. Anecdotal, of course, but true and more prevalent than you're willing to admit.

scooter1 Loc: Yacolt, Wa.

Fact is if you sell at a gun show as a private citizen without an FFL you are not bound by federal regulation and are subject to state regulations only. So it's up to the state.

JohnFrim Loc: Somewhere in the Great White North.

You really do long for the Wild Wild West days by the sounds of it. The very fact that you feel you need to pack a gun when leaving the house tells you that there is a HUGE ATTITUDE PROBLEM in America.

I have never owned a firearm, and never will. I have lived in several countries, and have NEVER felt unsafe because of not having a gun on my person. Yes, there were places that were a bit scary at times, but feeling that you can't go anywhere without your sidearm is paranoia beyond the pale. And I am sure that if there were fewer guns in the country -- and fewer people feeling they need a gun at the ready at all times -- there would be less paranoia. If you want to take the pure interpretation of the 2A and own a firearm in case you have to fight off an oppressive government then go ahead and own one; but leave it at home when you go to church, or school, or work, or the park, or the beach, or the bar, or the brothel, or...

I have heard many say it is not guns that are the problem, it is people. With a bit more digging we find what they really mean is a mental health problem. And now I am beginning to believe that there are correct... it is a mental health problem... unfounded paranoia!!!!!