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Mar 15, 2023 22:57:55   #
Wyantry Loc: SW Colorado
 
Checkmate wrote:
DavyO and his b**t-buddy FrankieT are F JB apologists.


Activity in Hedgehog-Land by TrollO and Fwankie indicates they are unlikely to comprehend what the term “apologists” means . . . .

Fwankie rants.
TrollO insults.

Neither make a lot of sense.
Neither can supply a substantive, coherent or meaningful response on any subject.

It would probably be most rational to just ignore them, but is so much fun to “twist-‘em-up” and observe their irrationality and abjectly-moronic responses.

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Mar 15, 2023 22:58:52   #
JamesCurran Loc: Trenton ,NJ
 
Racmanaz wrote:
Lol no, YOU are wrong on all parts as usual. It’s only lying conspiracy nut jobs that actually believe it was an attempted insurrection, no such action occurred. Only fools believe it to be an actual insurrection. Facts are not in your favor no matter what BS you want to post. Yes, in order to take over the U.S government, you would need a well planned out attack by some sort of armed militia, otherwise you have nothing. Such a dumb argument from you anti-Trumpers.


No, I'm completely correct. You can tell, because you were completely unable to cite even one mistake I made in my posts. You probably didn't notice that -- After years of trying to deal with the contradictions of wanting to believe Trump is a superhero when ALL available evidence shows that he's just a crook and a con-artist, your brain has just shut down, and you're reduced to just parroting back the fantasy you want to believe. Like I said before --- Come back to reality; it'll be much healthier for you.

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Mar 15, 2023 23:09:27   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
JamesCurran wrote:
No, I'm completely correct. You can tell, because you were completely unable to cite even one mistake I made in my posts. You probably didn't notice that -- After years of trying to deal with the contradictions of wanting to believe Trump is a superhero when ALL available evidence shows that he's just a crook and a con-artist, your brain has just shut down, and you're reduced to just parroting back the fantasy you want to believe. Like I said before --- Come back to reality; it'll be much healthier for you.
No, I'm completely correct. You can tell, because... (show quote)


LOL You are wrong again and at least I have a functional brain that recognizes facts and truth unlike you. I didn't cite any mistakes you made, I cited the LIES you made in all your posts in here. There is a HUGE difference between a mistake and a LIE, you spew lies not mistakes. You are a willing participant of false narratives and false information, your hatred for Trump nullifies any integrity that you may have possessed if any. You are wayyyy to bias to actually recognize facts and truth that doesn't fit your way of thinking. Again, you aren't capable of entertaining reality, you are "factless" and blind.

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Mar 16, 2023 03:37:38   #
Effate Loc: El Dorado Hills, Ca.
 
JamesCurran wrote:
Stop Lying.

We all saw the video of hundred of Trumpers smashing thru windows, storming into the Capitol and attacking cops with knives and clubs and bear spray. And also, stop listening to Fox "News" and try listening to a real news source.. MANY of the insurrectionists were found with guns -- Trump himself ordered the metal detectors removed so they could get in with their guns. And the Proud Boys admitted they had substantial supplies of gun in their hotels rooms, to be ready for the next phrase of the attack.

You've created your own reality distortion field, preventing you from seeing anything that doesn't fit your narrative (because you can't admit you were taken in by a con-artist/tin-pot dictator)
Stop Lying. br br We all saw the video of hundred... (show quote)


Tell me which officer was attacked with a knife and the many that were found with guns according to CNN was three on the Capitol grounds including an off duty DEA agent and a gun was found in a pickup off the grounds but was anyone charged with actually unholstering or brandishing a firearm (I ask because I don’t know)?

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Mar 16, 2023 03:40:23   #
Effate Loc: El Dorado Hills, Ca.
 
Frank T wrote:
1. Firearms are not required for an insurrection.
2. They planned to hang Mike Pence and nullify a lawful election and install Trump as President.
3. Were you in Washington DC on January 6th? I know there are people that would like to know the answer to that.


Really, who was charged with possession of a hangman’s noose? I support that you have the right to your opinion and appreciate that no one is going to change your mind but you have to keep it real. Do you really think the video clip of Chansley is how someone looks when being arrested. Looks to me like he is being ordered out, not resisting and playing with his megaphone And where is the two hours of his “rampaging.” I don’t know what other’s did but I sure haven’t seen conduct that support 4 years in the slammer for him specifically. If you have (sincerely) point me to it.

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Mar 16, 2023 09:52:38   #
JamesCurran Loc: Trenton ,NJ
 
Effate wrote:
Tell me which officer was attacked with a knife and the many that were found with guns according to CNN was three on the Capitol grounds including an off duty DEA agent and a gun was found in a pickup off the grounds but was anyone charged with actually unholstering or brandishing a firearm (I ask because I don’t know)?


https://www.factcheck.org/2021/03/capitol-protesters-were-armed-with-variety-of-weapons/


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/capitol-riot-weapons-deadly-dangerous/

https://www.thetrace.org/2021/01/capitol-riot-firearms-arrests-proud-boys/

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Mar 16, 2023 09:56:36   #
JamesCurran Loc: Trenton ,NJ
 
Racmanaz wrote:
LOL You are wrong again and at least I have a functional brain that recognizes facts and truth unlike you. I didn't cite any mistakes you made, I cited the LIES you made in all your posts in here.


No. That's the point... You didn't CITE a thing. You just insisted that I was wrong (or lied). You offered ZERO proof of that. Which is my point. You are incapable of telling the difference between PROVING something, and just INSISTING on it, because in your deluded mind, you really wanting to believe something is enough for it to be "reality".

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Mar 16, 2023 09:57:30   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
JamesCurran wrote:


Again you are wrong and deflecting.

During the hearing, Republican Sen. Ron Johnson of Wisconsin asked Jill Sanborn, assistant director of the FBI’s Counterterrorism Division, “How many firearms were confiscated in the Capitol or on Capitol grounds during that day?”

“To my knowledge, we have not recovered any on that day from any other arrests at the scene at this point,” Sanborn said. “But I don’t want to speak on behalf of Metro and Capitol Police.”

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Mar 16, 2023 10:05:23   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
JamesCurran wrote:
No. That's the point... You didn't CITE a thing. You just insisted that I was wrong (or lied). You offered ZERO proof of that. Which is my point. You are incapable of telling the difference between PROVING something, and just INSISTING on it, because in your deluded mind, you really wanting to believe something is enough for it to be "reality".


I didn’t cite a thing? You realize I posted that from the first link you posted above? It’s you that has a deluded mind and want to believe what you want to believe. Do you want to maintain that? It wasn’t in surrection when it wasn’t. Had it been an insurrection, there would have been an armed militia that was well planned out with firearms and ammunition, ready to take over the government. Obviously, that was not the case. It was not an insurrection, because there was no armed militia, and no plan to take over the government. But pathological liars like you will refuse that fact.

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Mar 16, 2023 10:29:09   #
RichieC Loc: Adirondacks
 
By what mechanism or power was anything the mob did or could do going to have an effect on anything BUT the eventual outcome? This wasn't a takeover of a city, where murders happened and major fires, police precincts and evidence in ongoing trials was destroyed, and countless innocent victims and innocent businesses destroyed forever! and destruction piled up in the billions., and where NOBODY got in trouble, This only ever had one outcome.

But you must thank your luck stars everyday that the buffalo guy didn't get to the podium and begin to issue directives to mobilize the military and police, and the people, to do his exact bidding, because they all would have had to do what ever that person(s) said to do, LOOK WHERE HE IS STANDING!!


Imagine the laughter of anybody but a democrat in thinking all you have to do to take over the US is break into [any]place, don't need a single weapon, and you can take over the American government. But let's name it something and run with it... . you can't manufacture a disaster , remember Pelosi was in charge of capital security and she failed miserably! and then not take advantage of it... so you name it something really good... make believe it was the worst thing to happen ic since the civil war, call it INSURRECTION! and pretend it was dire and dangerous and that the entire American way was in eminent peril! and the lemmings Orwell described will believe it.

Welcome to his world...

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Mar 16, 2023 10:53:44   #
FrumCA
 
Frank T wrote:
So how do the wingers explain more than 100 police officers injured? Were they hugged to hard by the peaceful demonstrators?
Got to hand it to Tucker. He knows his audience is made up of morons, and he caters to them.

Much like the morons who cater to and swallow the MSNBC story showing only the rioters whose actions may have been instigated by "planted" agitators without question, while ignoring the presence of thousands of peaceful protesters as Carlson's tapes showed.

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Mar 16, 2023 12:01:09   #
Frank T Loc: New York, NY
 
FrumCA wrote:
Much like the morons who cater to and swallow the MSNBC story showing only the rioters whose actions may have been instigated by "planted" agitators without question, while ignoring the presence of thousands of peaceful protesters as Carlson's tapes showed.


The planted agitators were mostly Proud Boys. Last I checked there wasn't a liberal in their group.

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Mar 16, 2023 12:41:37   #
Effate Loc: El Dorado Hills, Ca.
 
JamesCurran wrote:


I read all three of your articles and still see no evidence of an officer being assaulted with a knife or any gun unholstered or brandished you said officer were assaulted with many weapons including knives yet none of the three sources you site claim that. As a matter of fact the three are articles you cite only cite one (Christopher Alberts) who was found with a holstered handgun on the grounds (at 7:00 pm) after the riot when police were sweeping the grounds. The anti gun site you cited “The Trace” confirmed Alberts and then cited incidents that happened on the 4th and day(s) after. So, you said point out where you may have gone astray on your contention. I say your contention of many had guns during the assault (may or may not be true but I don’t think you will be able to prove it) or that officers were assaulted with knives is not true. As a matter of fact one of the articles you cite states an oath keeper leader gave the order no guns in D.C.

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Mar 16, 2023 12:41:56   #
FrumCA
 
Frank T wrote:
The planted agitators were mostly Proud Boys. Last I checked there wasn't a liberal in their group.

The Proud Boys included up to 8 FBI informants around the time of the protests. Don't know if they are/were liberals, but there are questions about why they evidently did nothing to warn authorities about the protests.

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Mar 16, 2023 12:50:43   #
Frank T Loc: New York, NY
 
FrumCA wrote:
The Proud Boys included up to 8 FBI informants around the time of the protests. Don't know if they are/were liberals, but there are questions about why they evidently did nothing to warn authorities about the protests.


You're kidding. Right?

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