The Human System: This idea popped into my head many years ago - the system of how humans live worldwide. We go to school for a good portion of our lives so we can learn enough to get...

jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY

This idea popped into my head many years ago - the system of how humans live worldwide.

We go to school for a good portion of our lives so we can learn enough to get a job. We work at that job for the best part of every day from youth till old age. Then, if we are lucky, we can retire. If there is another intelligent society somewhere in the universe, I wonder if they have come up with a better system, one that does not require everyone to spend most of their lives working. Money, of course, is behind it all. Without money, we can't have food or shelter, so we work to get it. If we are born into a family with lots of money, we don't have to work. "Not working" is the ideal situation.

Obviously, things have to get done, but couldn't there be a better way to structure society? This is where thinking outside the box comes in.

Robertl594 Loc: Bloomfield Hills, Michigan and Nantucket

Good thought and question. While I don’t have an immediate solution, Woody Allen had some thoughts on the subject.

WOODY ALLEN ON LIVING LIFE BACKWARDS
“In my next life, I want to live my life backwards. You start out dead and get that out of the way. Then you wake up in an old people’s home feeling better every day. You get kicked out for being too healthy, go collect your pension, and then when you start work, you get a gold watch and a party on your first day.
You work for 40 years until you’re young enough to enjoy your retirement. You party, drink alcohol, and are generally promiscuous, then you are ready for high school. You then go to primary school, you become a kid, you play. You have no responsibilities, you become a baby until you are born.
And then you spend your last 9 months floating in luxurious spa-like conditions with central heating and room service on tap, larger quarters every day and then Voila! you finish off as an orgasm!”

jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY

Robertl594 wrote:

Good thought and question. While I don’t have an i... (show quote)

There was a Star Trek episode similar to that.

f8lee Loc: New Mexico

Well, first, you are describing western life; the importance of "going to school to get a job" may be less in other cultures.

But more to the point, the "making money" thing speaks to the innate selfish behavior baked into the human animal - it is the "incentivizer" to urge those who look for a 'better life' to find or invent better ways of doing things. Th is is why central state based governments cannot work (and never have) - people suck (generally speaking) and thus those in charge of the masses soon succumb to their own greed and enrich themselves and their friends at the expense of that vast majority who end up starving to death.

So, until you figure out a way to change the fundamental nature of human beings, we are kind of stuck.

Robertl594 Loc: Bloomfield Hills, Michigan and Nantucket

jerryc41 wrote:

There was a Star Trek episode similar to that.

Which one????

Morry Loc: Palm Springs, CA

You seem to have omitted something that affects millions of people. That is that millions of people love to work . . . and that "not working" would not work for them.

roger

I feel there's just as much "work" in other societies as in ours. They still have to go out and hunt and harvest and all that to eat and survive.

jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY

Robertl594 wrote:

Which one????

The one about the people aging backwards. : )

It looks like they used that idea several times.

Here's one - https://them0vieblog.com/2016/03/25/star-trek-voyager-innocence-review/#:~:text=The%20casting%20of%20the%20episode,bizarre%20nature%20of%20their%20lifecycle.

And - https://www.startrek.com/database_article/counter-clock-incident-the

f8lee Loc: New Mexico

There is a pattern I have noticed in Sci-Fi in general:

In utopian futuristic Sci-Fi there are not many people - beautiful glass cities with a few folks walking down the sidewalks, etc. Or the tiny minority of people living above Earth in "Elysium" while the vast majority live in squalor.

In dystopic futuristic Sci-Fi (think, say, "Blade Runner" the planet is grimy and grey with hoards of peasants trudging around.

My guess is this is why the WEF is bent on de-population, but that could be another discussion.

Tex-s

jerryc41 wrote:

This idea popped into my head many years ago - the... (show quote)

My short answer is “no”. The way I see it, regardless of how a society organizes in terms of housing and money, someone has to know how “to”. How to build the brigde, grow the crop, repair the vehicle, or program the computer. This is also how I envision our current education system failing mankind, by churning out far too many family studies and lesbian dance theory majors and far too few engineers, surgeons, and welders.

Robertl594 Loc: Bloomfield Hills, Michigan and Nantucket

jerryc41 wrote:

The one about the people aging backwards. : )

It looks like they used that idea several times.

Here's one - https://them0vieblog.com/2016/03/25/star-trek-voyager-innocence-review/#:~:text=The%20casting%20of%20the%20episode,bizarre%20nature%20of%20their%20lifecycle.

And - https://www.startrek.com/database_article/counter-clock-incident-the

Thank you! I vaguely remember them now. Loved the show. Thanks for reminding me.

Drbobcameraguy Loc: Eaton Ohio

Farming is the best way to make a living. It doesn't take long to plant or harvest. Back in the olden days it was even better. Free land build a house in 6 months max get a few cattle and hunt some. Pick wild food maybe grow a few easy things like potatoes ect. We have gone backwards with technology. Now we spend the majority of our life working to survive. We used to have more time but not so many conviences.

jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY

Drbobcameraguy wrote:

Farming is the best way to make a living. It doesn't take long to plant or harvest. Back in the olden days it was even better. Free land build a house in 6 months max get a few cattle and hunt some. Pick wild food maybe grow a few easy things like potatoes ect. We have gone backwards with technology. Now we spend the majority of our life working to survive. We used to have more time but not so many conviences.

Sounds good, but my yard isn't very big.

kpmac Loc: Ragley, La

I've had that same thought as Woody Allen. This is the first time I have ever heard it expressed by someone else.

Robertl594 Loc: Bloomfield Hills, Michigan and Nantucket

kpmac wrote:

I've had that same thought as Woody Allen. This is the first time I have ever heard it expressed by someone else.

He did it well!!!