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Feb 21, 2023 16:44:15   #
alexol
 
Why does it have to be either / or?

Isn't it about time to accept that under certain circumstances one tool is more useful for the user than the other. The blades on my favorite German utility knives are every bit as sharp (at least on first use) as a surgeon's scalpel - that doesn't make them interchangeable.

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Feb 21, 2023 16:44:19   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
alexol wrote:
Celphones can take BEAUTIFUL photos.

Perhaps a more accurate statement might be "I am able to create better images with my cameras".

Perhaps.......

But not necessarily so.

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Feb 21, 2023 16:44:53   #
jcboy3
 
JohnSwanda wrote:
Cameras don't take pictures, people do If they know how to properly use their cameras, the photos can be better


I can't take pictures without a camera. My cameras can take pictures without me.

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Feb 21, 2023 16:47:20   #
alexol
 
Longshadow wrote:
Perhaps.......

But not necessarily so.


I'm sorry - you are correct, my expression was sloppy.

Better "In my opinion, I am able to create...."

Seen on a professional translator's wall: "What first appears to be a sloppy or meaningless use of words may in fact be a perfectly correct use of words to express sloppy or meaningless ideas"

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Feb 21, 2023 16:51:28   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
alexol wrote:
I'm sorry - you are correct, my expression was sloppy.

Better "In my opinion, I am able to create...."

Seen on a professional translator's wall: "What first appears to be a sloppy or meaningless use of words may in fact be a perfectly correct use of words to express sloppy or meaningless ideas"

I like that!

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Feb 21, 2023 16:52:42   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
jcboy3 wrote:
I can't take pictures without a camera. My cameras can take pictures without me.

If my phone is laying there in camera mode, and someone yells SHOOT or CLICK, it will take a picture...

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Feb 21, 2023 16:57:09   #
Grandpa Ron
 
If you are a camera buff you understand the things a camera can do that a phone cannot. If you are the average person that likes to take pictures, you think phone.

There are a lot more folks who care about the quality of their camera photos, than that small portion of the population that care about their camera's abilities.

If they put a view finder and tripod mount and a serious photographer's app on a phone, they would capture an even larger market share.

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Feb 21, 2023 17:02:32   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Grandpa Ron wrote:
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If they put a view finder and tripod mount and a serious photographer's app on a phone, they would capture an even larger market share.

I have a phone mount for my tripod...
Works great.

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Feb 21, 2023 17:07:57   #
kufengler Loc: Meridian, Idaho 83646
 
JohnSwanda wrote:
Cameras don't take pictures, people do If they know how to properly use their cameras, the photos can be better


So true! Like any tool, it' knowing how to use it to create the end result!

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Feb 21, 2023 17:18:38   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
kufengler wrote:
So true! Like any tool, it' knowing how to use it to create the end result!


What a concept!

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Feb 21, 2023 17:20:50   #
Grandpa Ron
 
I bought an adapter to mount my camera to my telescope. Sure enough they had a phone/telescope mounting fixture.

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Feb 21, 2023 17:24:09   #
OldCADuser Loc: Irvine, CA
 
They did a survey five or six years ago where they asked a group of 13 and 14 year old girls about their cell phone usage. Not sure if this what they expected, but the most common use that the girls mentioned was taking pictures, and when asked about this, most replied that how else were they going to share pictures with their friends. Using their phones to actually make telephone calls, wasn't all that important to them. It was pictures and texting.

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Feb 21, 2023 21:28:45   #
sailwiz Loc: Santee, CA
 
jcboy3 wrote:
My cameras take better pictures.


Don't look at me, I never use my old smart phone a truthfully do not know its number. All my cameras are Lumix and I use them!

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Feb 22, 2023 09:15:57   #
Novots Loc: Grand Forks, ND
 
Do phone prints and camera prints essentially look the same at typical print sizes, 4×6, 8×10 etc.? If one doesn't print their images and only looks at them on some sort of device, isn't a phone camera good enough?

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Feb 22, 2023 09:53:03   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Novots wrote:
Do phone prints and camera prints essentially look the same at typical print sizes, 4×6, 8×10 etc.? If one doesn't print their images and only looks at them on some sort of device, isn't a phone camera good enough?

1. I would imagine.
2. Yes.

I have no animosity or disdain for my phone camera at all.

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