What's your biggest gripe?
Jan 22, 2023 14:50:10 #
bikinkawboy
Loc: north central Missouri
jaymatt wrote:
You should be so happy that you aren’t/weren’t an English teacher. 
What’s interesting is that one of my best friends is a retired English teacher. He says that he wasn’t real hard on his students for misspelling a word as long as it was used correctly in the sentence. He was more interested in property grammar than proper spelling.
As for off kilter horizons, keep in mind that not all horizons are level. In the Rockies it’s not uncommon to have uphill or downhill grades that are 20 miles in length. A nice level horizon on a photo isn’t any good if the trees are all leaning in one direction.
Jan 22, 2023 14:54:06 #
To my eye, when an edit starts to look unnatural it's gone too far. The most common place for that to happen is in cloudy skies - the clouds end up looking solid and heavy, and even the cloudless blue bits are often too dark and too saturated. Skies never look like that SOOC (or in real life).
Jan 22, 2023 16:13:25 #
One more vote for cockeyed horizons.
Also tired of the overused term "AI".
Also tired of the overused term "AI".
Jan 22, 2023 17:23:53 #
OwlHarbor
Loc: Pacific North West USA
Mine is that I need to make the choice to understand more often, grant me the serenity to accept the things
I cannot change,
The courage to change the things I can,
And the wisdom to know the difference.
I cannot change,
The courage to change the things I can,
And the wisdom to know the difference.
Jan 22, 2023 17:30:05 #
Rude commenters. There’s really no need for it. Take it to the “Attic” if you must.
Jan 22, 2023 17:56:12 #
bikinkawboy wrote:
.................. keep in mind that not all horizons are level. In the Rockies it’s not uncommon to have uphill or downhill grades that are 20 miles in length. A nice level horizon on a photo isn’t any good if the trees are all leaning in one direction.
.................. keep in mind that not all horizons are level. In the Rockies it’s not uncommon to have uphill or downhill grades that are 20 miles in length. A nice level horizon on a photo isn’t any good if the trees are all leaning in one direction.
The horizon itself is ALWAYS level. The road never establishes the horizon. No reasonable operator would use a steep road as their X axis. They will use the trees, structures, etc as their Y axis.
Jan 22, 2023 19:56:39 #
OldSchool-WI
Loc: Brandon, Wisconsin 53919
Scruples wrote:
Most cameras have electronic levels. In other instances, one can buy a bubble level and slide it into the hot shoe.
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Who can see a bubble level with their eye in a viewfinder. Levels are only for tripod use. As for leveling---any post processor and most basic computer viewers have an editor with "straighten." Even the viewer in my table has an editor with a straightener and a rotate.----------ew
Jan 22, 2023 20:29:46 #
OldSchool-WI wrote:
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Levels are only for tripod use.
Levels are only for tripod use.
The bubble levels you refer to are not "only" for tripod use, they can be used by those handholding and viewing the rear LCD.
Jan 22, 2023 21:07:15 #
OldSchool-WI
Loc: Brandon, Wisconsin 53919
Grahame wrote:
The bubble levels you refer to are not "only" for tripod use, they can be used by those handholding and viewing the rear LCD.
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Good luck with that maneuver Grahame (fijitime-smugmug).-------
Jan 22, 2023 21:10:59 #
John N wrote:
Mine is looking at photo's that aren't level. I seem to have a particular talent for spotting the slightest deviation from the perpendicular and only wish I could extend that talent to the many other faults I display in my own images.
Folks need to use this, if their camera has one. Many do if you check the menu.
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Jan 22, 2023 23:11:07 #
John N wrote:
Mine is looking at photo's that aren't level.
The advent of cell phone photography has brought with it some unique images. No one seems to be able to hold a phone level, and that is compounded by the tendency to believe that deliberately tipping the phone makes a very, very creative image. If your selfie is not at 45° then you just have no sense of photo class.
Also, you must always hold the phone vertically, and tip it forward, making a V shape of every straight line in the background, while stretching, contorting, and enlarging heads. And because it's a 16x9 ratio, you must always leave lots of space on top and bottom, which you wouldn't need if you just held the phone horizontally.
Then, in your little toy editing app, add a vignette; the perfect touch to a totally clueless picture.
Jan 22, 2023 23:49:47 #
OldSchool-WI
Loc: Brandon, Wisconsin 53919
terryMc wrote:
The advent of cell phone photography has brought w... (show quote)
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Yes, a phone camera is like any camera and subject to the same laws of optics which necessitate a view camera with swings and tilts for architectural photography and also all forms of thought-out photos of quality.------------ew
Jan 23, 2023 00:15:07 #
bikinkawboy
Loc: north central Missouri
User ID wrote:
The horizon itself is ALWAYS level. The road never establishes the horizon. No reasonable operator would use a steep road as their X axis. They will use the trees, structures, etc as their Y axis.
Go west of Buffalo Wyoming on route 16. Get about halfway up the mountains and look north or south and you will see that the horizon is not level. On one side you see rugged terrain going up and the other you can see over 20 miles across the plains. Line up your camera with trees? There are lookout points where there is nothing but rocks and the trees are located below you. Go to eastern Montana in the plains and you will find general land forms forming the horizon that are not level. You ought to try it and then see what you think.
Jan 23, 2023 06:02:31 #
I also notice that I often capture the tilting of the earth as it empties the ocean from one side to the other. It really helps that I can correct that pesky ocean or other "curvature" of the horizon with my computer cropper.
Jan 23, 2023 06:03:56 #
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