Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

Yes, absolutely.
Unless you were in a cave all these years.

That is why you need a big chart to see what actually works with what.

Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

Sony is as or more expensive than Canon.
Does Sony have a 600mm under 1K? What about a 100mm - 400mm for under $500?, 16mm for under $300?
I could go on but you hopefully are catching on that there are lots of extremely good RF lenses for a goos and inexpensive price.

BebuLamar

I don't use either Canon nor Sony and my consensus is that you should not base your decision on other opinions. But well you just want to go with the crowd that's OK.

Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.

I know AF and AF-D lenses need an in body motor for auto focus while AF-S does not. And some other lenses have similar body restrictions, but the Mount is the same for all of them.

nikon123 Loc: Toronto, Canada

CHG_CANON
I typically look for your responses to posts and enjoy your point of view. Not this time! To me this posts makes no sense. I would have expected the 100% rating in favour of the photographer when using a Kodak Brownie. I am also surprised that you discount the qualities of the Canon system. Did you intend to say that it is not a partner with you in image making?

Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.

The OP set no parameters on cost. All he wants to know is which is the best mirrorless camera.

gwilliams6

If you look you can find videos from testers that favor one or the other, Canon R5, Sony A7RV.

Here are two comparison videos:

Sony a7R V vs Canon R5 Camera Comparison - Which is Better? (The Slanted Lens)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5xw672XKEI

Sony a7R V vs Canon R5 vs Sony a7R IV: Best high-resolution camera! (Tony and Chelsea Northrup)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96JDtUgxk4s

Seems in all the video comparisons, both are very good cameras, but the AF is shown to be better in the Sony A7RV for fast subjects ,sports and wildlife shooters. For me and all the subjects I shoot around the world, that AF performance would be a deal-breaker .

Only you can make the final decision on what matters to you and how and what you shoot. .

Cheers and best to you.

Robertl594 Loc: Bloomfield Hills, Michigan and Nantucket

Thanks Jimmy T! Wondering how long this post will continue for?!? Same song on repeat.

I would be proud of your efforts and persistence. It’s wonderful to explore a passion. We learn that way and produce some pretty satisfying results along the way.
My best!
RL

camerapapi Loc: Miami, Fl.

While attending a workshop in Orlando, Florida, on nature and landscape photography by John Shaw I saw his exhibition of images taken over the years with different cameras. He invited the audience to identify which images, a few of them were made with digital and which were made with film. I did not see anybody in that group able to identify which was digital and which was film. In that particular case all the cameras were made by Nikon. I was able to identify one that I saw in one of his book made with the Nikon F3 otherwise I would have been in the same position that group was.

Today cameras and lenses, especially high end cameras, are sophisticated tools very capable with the excellent optics available to them from the camera manufacturer or independent lenses. If you are after outstanding images keep in mind that the camera's operator plays an important role in the quality of the images made. A person with solid knowledge of photography and with years of experience will do very well with any of those cameras.

I use basic Olympus gear so I am in no position to advise you on what to buy.

Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

Just like the Canon mount remained exactly the same from their 1st SLR until the EF mount yet Nikon fanboys to this day say Canon kept changing mounts.
So using the Nikon fanboy logic Nikon has about 9 mount changes.
Prove me wrong.

Jack 13088 Loc: Central NY

Interesting idea. But there are some significant problems with this methodology:

Searching for such a company is like searching for a unicorn. It is not clear that any still remain with the evolution of the market. Leitz was a prototypical fine camera company. Now they remain a force in non-photography optics. Their pricing once reflected the quality of the fine cameras. Today they maintain camera manufacture as more a cultural image thing where outrageous prices are an essential plus.

Evolution of the market is driving companies from a dwindling market. Clearly cameras in mobile phones are siphoning sales to an entirely different rapidly growing market leaving your investment in a brand in jeopardy. Olympus who is a major force in medical optics withdrew but were able to move their brand to a different company.

It in the nature of corporations to conceal insight into their investment and profitability of their various business so how do you determine which companies meet your criteria.

I think the “my brand is better than yours” discussions in this forum are driven by the belief that investment in “better” will improve their photography. Alas a new camera only complicates and delays learning the really important artsy fartsy stuff like composition and lighting as well as technical stuff like exposure and focus. And eventually mastering post processing and presentation which artistically and technically seal the deal.

mikegreenwald Loc: Illinois

Hear hear! A knowledgeable and objective reply!

Also, it makes no difference how many lenses fit each camera, as long as there are available lenses meet your needs! Many aftermarket lenses are duplicates of lenses made by both the OEM and other lens makers.

bamfordr Loc: Campbell CA

“ Sony has been making cameras and lenses for decades”

2006 Sony bought the DSLR operations from Konica-Minolta (which had been formed in 2003 with the merger of Konica and Minolta.).

cjc2 Loc: Hellertown PA

As a Canon shooter I would recommend staying with them. This advice comes from a Nikon shooter, using the best mirrorless of them all, the Z9. :)

Effate Loc: El Dorado Hills, Ca.

My experience is a bit different. Concerning size and weight, I have an R5 and although the native body may be a bit smaller than my previous 5DXX models when you employ a battery grip (much needed with the battery consumption) it is bigger and heavier. As to the wide angle lenses I have the 15-30 f2.8 and the 24-70 f2.8 which are almost identical in size and weight and I haven’t compared but would bet they are close to my previous 24-70 EF f2.8 and heavier and larger than my 16-35 f2.8. Now my RF 70-200 is definitely more compact than its predecessor. All this is just my experience and a hunch as I haven’t compared actual size and weight.