Sidwalkastronomy wrote:
I called them for fun and you could hear the BS for yourself
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If it takes scripting to "hear for oneself"---I cannot see a link or hear anything---PLEASE TRANSCRIBE the conversation in writing.-----------------------
Soul Dr.
Loc: Beautiful Shenandoah Valley
OldSchool-WI wrote:
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Indeed it has been said. But with neither first hand negative accounts nor first hand positive accounts. Only talk of blackmail by manufacturers for those who "undercut" their sticker pricings through competition. No first hand about failures to compensate for return goods. No first hand about retracted warranties on new goods----nothing. But yes, All has been "said" here. Maybe by a B&H or Adorramma employee or relative as far as one knows??-----------------------------
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Since you don't believe what the BBB or anyone else has said about Abe's, why don't you try and buy a top of the line camera from them and let us know how your experience with them is.
That way you can prove everything that has been said about them is BS.
Will
Sidwalkastronomy wrote:
Nikon won't sell parts to non nikon repair shops so your sol
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If that is so--the repair could either price fix or go their own way and fix Canon, Sony, Olympus, and every other make in the past hundred years. It is up to them---free country. Nikon does not have a monopoly on camera sales.-----------------ew
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The only camera I have had that needed professional repair was my Exakta VXIIa which needed a new cloth curtain shutter as it developed pin-holes. I found an excellent repair on Wacker just off the Chicago Loop with Chinese who had just come from SanFrancisco. I also bought a telephoto lens from them and their repair was excellent and reasonable. I never asked if they were "registered repair" with anybody and particularly not Nikon. Like with Jimmy Stewart in REAR WINDOW, my brand was Exacta and still is in miniature film. Although I have and still do take more pictures with my first small 35mm which is not a rangefinder camera--but barrel focusing you cannot beat an Exakta with a Schneider Xenar F:1.9 with auto step-down. -------------------ew
Soul Dr. wrote:
Since you don't believe what the BBB or anyone else has said about Abe's, why don't you try and buy a top of the line camera from them and let us know how your experience with them is.
That way you can prove everything that has been said about them is BS.
Will
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There is a different between not believing something and NOT TAKING SECOND HAND OPINIONS at face value. Do you understand what I just said. Maybe ABE of Maine is a big cheat---Maybe B&H will cheat the pants off of you---maybe you are a liar and a thief----but I won't take second hand contentions as gospel on any of that. Here you are claiming I won't believe or I am taking ABE"s side. I am only believing proof---not second hand pass-along remarks to condemn a "price cutter" in this photographic world of price fixing.----------------------ew
steveo52
Loc: Rhode Island and Ocala Florida
Sidwalkastronomy wrote:
I called them for fun and you could hear the BS for yourself
Let's see it's Abe's of Maine but based in Linden, NJ...........that in itself is a hint run, don't walk.
Sidwalkastronomy wrote:
I called them for fun and you could hear the BS for yourself
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WHERE IS THE BEEF? I cannot hear anything or see a link to audio? Just what are you talking (writing) about?--Who did you call and who did you "call out?"---------ew
OldSchool-WI wrote:
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Prove it. A repair shop will repair a used item. And I really doubt that any repair shop would reject a camera repair if the item was not registered after purchase. I presume Nikon and Canon would love to have a closed price and monopoly on repairs----but give a concrete example. And give an actual example of getting cheated by ABE of Maine?--------------------
It's well know that Nikon does not sell ANY parts to repair shops
OldSchool-WI wrote:
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WHERE IS THE BEEF? I cannot hear anything or see a link to audio? Just what are you talking (writing) about?--Who did you call and who did you "call out?"---------ew
I called abes for apossible purchase and after a few questions it's obvious they (abes) were shady
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Many have complained about the full page advertisers in the photo-mags and particularly--B&H and Adoramma on account of the "religion" of the personnel and ownership. I have never given any of that a second thought. My first 35mm bought by me at the close of 1953 was from such a magazine advertisement. Attached is a photo I took with that same 35mm I bought then with it's self timer and a brief case sized tripod. I ran an NASD Securities Broker Dealer registered firm.---I stopped in at B&H when I was in NYCity.----------(attached photo of myself)--------------------ew
Sidwalkastronomy wrote:
I called abes for apossible purchase and after a few questions it's obvious they (abes) were shady
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How about this? If someone wants to shop at Abe's..more power to them. If not, that's fine too.
OldSchool-WI wrote:
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Indeed it has been said. But with neither first hand negative accounts nor first hand positive accounts. Only talk of blackmail by manufacturers for those who "undercut" their sticker pricings through competition. No first hand about failures to compensate for return goods. No first hand about retracted warranties on new goods----nothing. But yes, All has been "said" here. Maybe by a B&H or Adorramma employee or relative as far as one knows??-----------------------------
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I had a good friend who bought a Nikon Z7 II mirrorless camera from them about 2 months ago. He found that their price on the camera was much better than anyone else, so he bought it. Adorama and B & H sell that camera for $2999.00 for the body only. Abe’s had it for $2240.00. At first glance, that’s a great amount of money saved. I advised him not to buy it but he went ahead and ordered one. When it arrives, he found that apparently someone had previously returned it, and there wasn’t a battery in the box for the camera nor the charger. The Nikon UC-E24 USB cable was missing also. The only thing in the box besides the body was the hot shoe cover.
He called them the next day and asked about the missing items. Abe’s told him that the battery, charger, and USB cable wasn’t included in their price, so if he wanted them he would have to pay extra for them. So he went ahead and ordered them from Abe’s, since the camera was useless without them. The Nikon battery for the Z7 retails for $69.99, and Abe’s charged him $179.99 for one battery. The charger that comes with the Z7 II sells for $59.99, and he paid $103.99 for it. The Nikon UC-E24 cable sells for $29.99 from B & H, and Abe’s charged him $89.00 for it. So he saved $387.00. He checked the camera over and there was no warranty paperwork from Nikon in the box. He asked about that, and they said that Nikon no longer warranties there cameras (not true), but that they would give him a 5 year warranty through the for $699.00. They said if he bough their warranty, he could not send it to any repair center for work. It has to go to Abe’s. So now he has a camera that cost him $315.00 more, without a factory warranty, and a camera that had been returned to them for some reason. I had him call Nikon U.S.A. and ask about their warranty. He gave them the serial number, and Nikon said it was gray market, and as such they would not work on that camera at all, no matter what he paid them. They said he could ship it back to the country where it came from, and Nikon would repair it there.
After all this drama, he asked for a refund since the camera was a returned item from someone else, but Abe’s denied that and said it was brand new. After quite a bit of arguing back and forth, Abe’s stopped talking to him and won’t return his phone calls. And after all of this, he ended up paying $315.00 more for it than if he would have bought it from Adorama or B & H. So, old school, please feel free to buy everything from Abe’s. Believe me, they will treat you very well. You deserve each other.
cwp3420 wrote:
When it arrives, he found that apparently someone had previously returned it, and there wasn’t a battery in the box for the camera nor the charger. The Nikon UC-E24 USB cable was missing also. The only thing in the box besides the body was the hot shoe cover.
This has been reported over and over on the Internet. They remove all of the accessories from the box and then sell them to you separately. Is a battery even an accessory?
therwol wrote:
This has been reported over and over on the Internet. They remove all of the accessories from the box and then sell them to you separately. Is a battery even an accessory?
________________________(Without the sales description---don't post nonsense.) A person who buys from want ads or from eBay---does the background checking---why not the "supposed" purchasers of AVE of Maine? The camera came new---who claimed it was in the manufacturer's new configuration? I don't expect batteries, plugs or manuals with eBay unless the seller shows in their listing. If it is for a new body--that is the base--anything else is gravy. If ABE claimed new from manufacturer---I would then expect everything listed in the manual as in the NEW package.-----So----don't post innuendo without the ABE offering listing--and that goes also for wireless triggers.----------!!!!
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