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Dec 23, 2022 09:14:09   #
InfiniteISO Loc: The Carolinas, USA
 
With plummeting temps and massive power outages, I'm wondering if we'll see any Electric vehicle stories from this holiday weekend.

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Dec 23, 2022 09:31:06   #
Nalu Loc: Southern Arizona
 
Wii be interesting to see.

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Dec 23, 2022 10:11:55   #
deanfl Loc: Georgia
 
InfiniteISO wrote:
With plummeting temps and massive power outages, I'm wondering if we'll see any Electric vehicle stories from this holiday weekend.


I just received an amended agreement from Avis for rental electric vehicles. Teslas are not to go through an automated car wash. Returned electric vehicles need to have at least a 70% charge. If the charge is less than 10% there is an additional fee.

Not weather related but the above was new info for me.

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Dec 23, 2022 10:29:40   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
InfiniteISO wrote:
With plummeting temps and massive power outages, I'm wondering if we'll see any Electric vehicle stories from this holiday weekend.


Nope, fake news has the DNC talking points and in bold type to say nothing about EVs in any way negative.

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Dec 23, 2022 10:57:59   #
InfiniteISO Loc: The Carolinas, USA
 
deanfl wrote:
I just received an amended agreement from Avis for rental electric vehicles. Teslas are not to go through an automated car wash. Returned electric vehicles need to have at least a 70% charge. If the charge is less than 10% there is an additional fee.

Not weather related but the above was new info for me.


Car wash? That's pretty bizarre. There has only been one time in my life I've washed a rental car and that was when I drove one for a month while an auto body shop repaired my personal vehicle. I imagine they're worried about resale value from damaged paint and trim, not anything that might happen to the mechanics of the vehicle, but you never know. Interesting.

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Dec 24, 2022 09:51:39   #
JamesB Loc: Kingston, ON
 
Automatic car washes are not an issue for Teslas. All Teslas have a car wash mode which disables windshield wipers and folds in mirrors.

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Dec 24, 2022 12:34:17   #
Watash
 
Architect1776 wrote:
Nope, fake news has the DNC talking points and in bold type to say nothing about EVs in any way negative.


Doesn't cold negatively affect batteries? Maybe they can install a small gas engine to keep the battery warm.

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Dec 24, 2022 14:42:31   #
Haenzel Loc: South Holland, The Netherlands
 
Yes, range will decrease during extreme cold but having watched news broadcasts in the US that's not the biggest problem. Trying to get to your destination without required capability and proper tyres in this kind of weather is more of an issue....

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Dec 24, 2022 16:46:11   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
Haenzel wrote:
Yes, range will decrease during extreme cold but having watched news broadcasts in the US that's not the biggest problem. Trying to get to your destination without required capability and proper tyres in this kind of weather is more of an issue....


So far I have seen no discussion of range with a load of luggage and 4 people.
There was one a few months ago towing a very small trailer that took 2 days vs a few hours.

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Dec 24, 2022 18:14:24   #
Haenzel Loc: South Holland, The Netherlands
 
Architect1776 wrote:
So far I have seen no discussion of range with a load of luggage and 4 people.
There was one a few months ago towing a very small trailer that took 2 days vs a few hours.


Weight, depending on the nature of the trip (for example long distance, no hills), does not make a huge difference. Once EV has reached a certain speed the energy required to maintain that speed will be the same no matter what weight.

Everything else that influences the CW value of a vehicle does make a big difference.....The driver in the video you're referring to was determined to show that EV's suck whilst towing. Actually it was the driver that sucked. I could have done it way better.

Fact remains that towing and EV require a big battery and a driver that knows how to get the most out of the battery...

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Dec 24, 2022 18:19:15   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
Haenzel wrote:
Weight, depending on the nature of the trip (for example long distance, no hills), does not make a huge difference. Once EV has reached a certain speed the energy required to maintain that speed will be the same no matter what weight.

Everything else that influences the CW value of a vehicle does make a big difference.....The driver in the video you're referring to was determined to show that EV's suck whilst towing. Actually it was the driver that sucked. I could have done it way better.

Fact remains that towing and EV require a big battery and a driver that knows how to get the most out of the battery...
Weight, depending on the nature of the trip (for e... (show quote)


My Jeep requires nothing different to tow.
And your moving theory is based on a flatlander's life.
Not applicable from Phoenix to Flagstaff or any other mountain west area. That is a BS dodge apologists use.

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Dec 24, 2022 19:04:24   #
Haenzel Loc: South Holland, The Netherlands
 
Architect1776 wrote:
My Jeep requires nothing different to tow.
And your moving theory is based on a flatlander's life.
Not applicable from Phoenix to Flagstaff or any other mountain west area. That is a BS dodge apologists use.


True...apart from your last unnecessary remark....But hey it's the Attic...!!!!!

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Dec 24, 2022 19:37:23   #
letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.
 
I do believe the trailer tow problem was the Ford F150 ev that did poorly.

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Dec 24, 2022 22:17:52   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
letmedance wrote:
I do believe the trailer tow problem was the Ford F150 ev that did poorly.


Actually it was not.

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Dec 25, 2022 06:20:43   #
dpullum Loc: Tampa Florida
 
deanfl wrote:
I just received an amended agreement from Avis for rental electric vehicles. Teslas are not to go through an automated car wash. Returned electric vehicles need to have at least a 70% charge. If the charge is less than 10% there is an additional fee. Not weather related but the above was new info for me.


One owner in an extreme cold area allowed his Tesla to go to 8%... then went to a charging station. The screen informed him that the battery system was warming and would then switch to charge. He was pleased with is Tesla.

Car wash statement has no basis in reality:
https://driveelectriccolorado.org/ev-myth-you-cant-take-an-ev-through-an-automated-car-wash/

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