If you don’t know computers…
Dec 14, 2022 20:49:15 #
gvarner wrote:
I’d say the odds are pretty high based on how many post are about "can’t find my photos" or "where did my photos go".
That, and many are not cognizant of how file structures work and the relationship to the catalog database, or how the catalogs work.
I'm still learning how Explorer works (displays) in Windows 11.....
The items under "Home" are simply <extra> "shortcuts" to listed folders; further down in the list are the folders themselves.
I don't really need the duplication under "Home". Too many of the same folder references. But I'm stating to get used to it.
If I remove a folder from under Home, does it simply remove the shortcut from Home, or does it remove the folder from the drive (delete it)? I'll have to experiment........
Dec 14, 2022 21:23:27 #
Longshadow wrote:
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I'm just wondering how many people who are new to digital and lacking some in computer use ever heard of UHH? Look at the joined dates in this thread, 2014 & 2015.
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Dec 14, 2022 21:26:00 #
Bill_de wrote:
I'm just wondering how many people who are new to digital and lacking some in computer use ever heard of UHH?
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A very large number...
Dec 14, 2022 21:34:37 #
gvarner
Loc: Central Oregon Coast
Longshadow wrote:
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I grew up with DOS and batch files and loaded PC's from floppies. Fought with a new modem for two weeks until one of my searches said to remove the old modem, shut the PC off and restart it without a modem, shut it down again and put the new modem in. Windows didn’t like having two modem drivers in its Registry. I get nervous when a computer does stuff and I don’t know what it’s doing.
Dec 14, 2022 21:55:51 #
gvarner wrote:
I grew up with DOS and batch files and loaded PC's from floppies. Fought with a new modem for two weeks until one of my searches said to remove the old modem, shut the PC off and restart it without a modem, shut it down again and put the new modem in. Windows didn’t like having two modem drivers in its Registry. I get nervous when a computer does stuff and I don’t know what it’s doing.
Ditto, same time frame, except I started with a hard drive, 10 Meg maybe! (Before that I had a Color Computer.)
The old mother boards had jumpers to disable the on-board modem and graphics when one added another card to the bus. I found that out with a graphics card.
It was either an interrupt or addressing contention, I don't remember which, but I had to disable the on-board graphics with a jumper.
Being an electronics engineer and programmer I knew exactly what my DOS system was doing/did, I got into the guts of it.
With Windows, and each subsequent update, we lost more control with each update.
I suppose I'm almost an end user now.
But I still try to fight it.
Dec 14, 2022 22:20:14 #
Longshadow wrote:
Ditto, same time frame, except I started with a ha... (show quote)
I never did like the geeky side of it. Did it, tolerated it, but held my nose through it all. I had a Mac and a PC on my desk from 1985 to 2012. For the last seven years of it, the PC was IN the Mac as Win XP running on Parallels Desktop. THAT made sense. I used to help the IT Manager with various network and software installations. I was a Mac network admin during that time, too, so I saw all kinds of ugly stuff. Fired a third shift guy for downloading porn on a PC in one of my film scanning computers. Caught the guy who introduced a Mac virus to our typesetting department in the 1990s. Most fun was developing FileMaker Pro Database Solutions to print millions of greeting cards for a chain of portrait studios who were a big client of our lab. That was all on the side while I was managing six departments in the school portrait lab. No wonder I retired early. Pressure? WHAT PRESSURE? GAAAAAAA HAHAHAHA!!! Thank-you, I feel much better now.
Dec 15, 2022 01:15:35 #
I have alwas been technically and mechanically inclined. Electronics, audio reproduction, and amateur radio have laws been my avocations, hobbies, and interests. I must, however, admit that I was kind of a "Johnny- come lately" to computer sciences. I'm quite sure, to this day, there are 12-year-olds who knows more about the inner working of computers than I do. I'm just an old photograher with a gray beard!
Nonetheless, once I transitioned my entire business into digital photography, I became one hell of an appliance operator. If my computers malfunction I will not meddle around in their innards- I just call in the so-called "Geek Squad" and get them to fix the glitches.
Necessity is the mother of invention. Once you get into serious digital photography you will soon learn to post-process your images. Many of us, here on this forum started off in photography years ago, shot film, and had the developing and printing done at the "drug store". The serious folks, somehow improvised "darkrooms" in kitchens, bathrooms, and basements and eventually set up serious darkrooms and learned the finer points. You did not need a degree in chemical engineering.
Some folks became computer savvy long before they purchased their first advanced digital camera so they should have no issues. Whether or not they will become good shooters, that's a matter of their talent, and willingness to learn and experiment.
If you shoot wisely, effectively, accurately, and consistently, you will not need to process the dickens out of every file. I leand years ago, that I didn't want "re-shoot" every job in the darkroom so I don't want to "reshoot" every job in post-processing. Shoot clean and post-processing and printing will be easy- and FUN!
Don't become intimated by endless technobabble and deep dives into computer land. If you already know all of that, good on you and it may be helpful. If not, remember you don't need to know about thermodynamics to be a good cook! You will get there!
Nonetheless, once I transitioned my entire business into digital photography, I became one hell of an appliance operator. If my computers malfunction I will not meddle around in their innards- I just call in the so-called "Geek Squad" and get them to fix the glitches.
Necessity is the mother of invention. Once you get into serious digital photography you will soon learn to post-process your images. Many of us, here on this forum started off in photography years ago, shot film, and had the developing and printing done at the "drug store". The serious folks, somehow improvised "darkrooms" in kitchens, bathrooms, and basements and eventually set up serious darkrooms and learned the finer points. You did not need a degree in chemical engineering.
Some folks became computer savvy long before they purchased their first advanced digital camera so they should have no issues. Whether or not they will become good shooters, that's a matter of their talent, and willingness to learn and experiment.
If you shoot wisely, effectively, accurately, and consistently, you will not need to process the dickens out of every file. I leand years ago, that I didn't want "re-shoot" every job in the darkroom so I don't want to "reshoot" every job in post-processing. Shoot clean and post-processing and printing will be easy- and FUN!
Don't become intimated by endless technobabble and deep dives into computer land. If you already know all of that, good on you and it may be helpful. If not, remember you don't need to know about thermodynamics to be a good cook! You will get there!
Dec 15, 2022 01:59:05 #
It pays to know the storage on your PC. Here is my example. As desktop IT, and everything else on the side, middle manager dude call the help desk 'cause his Win95 laptop is really slow. This laptop came with a 4GB disk, and since 95 supported only 2GB drives, he had a d: drive that was empty. While looking around the usual suspects to find why he had kilobytes of space on his 2GB c: drive, I look in temp only to find 1.5GB of porn images. I deleted them all, and warned him about it, but he didn't last very long at the company.
Dec 15, 2022 05:45:11 #
melismus
Loc: Chesapeake Bay Country
gvarner wrote:
If you don’t know much about computers, and you get a digital camera for Christmas, you better learn quick or you will be stuck looking at your photos on the back of the camera or getting them lost when trying to put them on your computer. Digital cameras are a computer accessory.
Conversely, computers are a digital camera accessory.
Dec 15, 2022 06:44:40 #
Just curious, is there anybody out there that really does NOT have a computer?
Dec 15, 2022 06:48:35 #
burkphoto wrote:
For everything in analog photography, there is an ... (show quote)
And we wonder why so many people now prefer to take pictures with a cell phone instead of a “real” camera!
Dec 15, 2022 07:10:24 #
Not necessary true. Your handheld device can do a lot today including save your pics….. but
Dec 15, 2022 07:32:21 #
You forgot to mention critical mental aspects of this process, like even temper and patience.
Dec 15, 2022 08:04:10 #
Mirror less cameras started right from the beginning of digital , and even before in film era .My first one was a fuji S700 finepix.Still have it , and on occasion use it .Small , light 7 mp .
Dec 15, 2022 08:05:56 #
I have a friend that told me he was going to be the second shooter at a wedding. He asked me how to get the pictures he took off the computer to the couple. He has very Basic knowledge of computers. He wants to get together with me before the wedding to go over a few things. I am afraid he is way over his head. Also, he doesn't have any editing software. He wouldn't know how to use it if he had it anyway.
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