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Dec 7, 2022 19:23:08   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
User ID wrote:
Uh huh. Wasabies are not generic.
They are authentic Wasabies.


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I never used that term, so why throw it in?

Wasabi Power does not make their cores, they buy them from one of the few companies that do make cores, then they have them assembled, marked with their name, shipped to their facility in Pomona, CA and sold from there. So in sales terms they are a "third party" or "after market" brand. They used to brag they were Japanese cores, the best available. I haven't seen that in their advertising in years.

That link is the from the Company's home page and there is a huge amount of info in the various tabs and menus.

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Dec 8, 2022 00:22:12   #
OldSchool-WI Loc: Brandon, Wisconsin 53919
 
JW from PA wrote:
Hi all, I just bought a Canon R6 Mk ii and was just wondering if anyone has had any problem using generic batteries if indeed you did use them at all on the R5 or R6.

I know, I spent $2500.00 on a camera, why skimp on buying the original battery for the camera. Well if the 40 dollar battery works as well as the 90 dollar one why not save 50 bucks.

Anyway I am just throwing this out there and hope it not only would help me, but others as well.

Thanks for reading this and may you all have a Very Merry Christmas a Happy and Safe New Years.

Semper Fi,
Joe W.
Hi all, I just bought a Canon R6 Mk ii and was jus... (show quote)


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For what it is worth---I use and need seven+ different types of batteries in just my main digital camera bodies---I use only generic and have found the KASTAR brand and their charges to work perfectly. I have used them I believe for eighteen years now. Had I depended on overpriced original manufacturer's batteries I would have gone broke long ago as I have as many as six spares for certain types and brands. Often the KASTARs are rated at higher capacity than the OEMs. What you got stung for on your camera purchase does not mean you have to bend over twice/---------

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Dec 8, 2022 06:30:05   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
JW from PA wrote:
Hi all, I just bought a Canon R6 Mk ii and was just wondering if anyone has had any problem using generic batteries if indeed you did use them at all on the R5 or R6.

I know, I spent $2500.00 on a camera, why skimp on buying the original battery for the camera. Well if the 40 dollar battery works as well as the 90 dollar one why not save 50 bucks.

Anyway I am just throwing this out there and hope it not only would help me, but others as well.

Thanks for reading this and may you all have a Very Merry Christmas a Happy and Safe New Years.

Semper Fi,
Joe W.
Hi all, I just bought a Canon R6 Mk ii and was jus... (show quote)


Well if my Sony HX99 $400.00 camera takes as good of shot as your R6, why spend the extra money?
Same argument as the one you are using. I think the answer is right in front of you.

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Dec 8, 2022 06:32:30   #
Capn_Dave
 
amfoto1 wrote:
When it comes to the LP-E6 series batteries like your camera uses, I've stuck with Canon's OEM (and have a dozen of them, shared between 3 cameras).

That said, some brands such as "Watson" are probably fine. "Wasabi" might be fine, too. I've heard of them but haven't used them so can't say from experience. Another brand I've heard good things about but haven't ever used is "Jupio".

In particular, I don't trust any battery that comes with it's own charger. Look closely at it to see if there's a warning about using any other (such as Canon) charger... or vice versa, to not use the charger with any other battery (such as Canon OEM). These "Neewer" batteries are an example with such a warning: https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1733137-REG/neewer_66600396_2_2250_mah_lp_e6nh.htmlp. The same warning is on these "Green Extreme" batteries: https://www.adorama.com/gxlpe6nhk1.html. To me this suggests some possible compatibility issues. Maybe that's the case, maybe it's not. I'm just not willing to take the risk to save a few $.

These modern battery like the LP-E6NH have chips inside and firmware. With older types of batteries such as Canon BP-511 and BP-512 I had no concerns about using 3rd party and did so a lot. But I'm more careful with the more modern batteries.

Also notice that there really isn't that much savings, if any, buying the "quality" 3rd party LP-E6NH:

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?q=lp-e6%20canon&filters=fct_battery-series_3189%3Acanon-lp-e6nh

Canon LP-E6NH...... $79
Watson LP-E6NH..... $59 ($20 savings)
Jupio LP-E6NH........ $85 (more expensive?)
Manfrotto LP-E6NH.. $60 ($19 savings)

Also check the 3rd party battery's power rating. In some cases I noticed they had less than the 2250 mAh of the Canon. This might make for slower frame rates or other performance compromises.

On their website, Wasabi don't have a charger warning, claim they match the power of the Canon battery and state that they are compatible with most Canon cameras that use the LP-E6NH. But they don't yet list the new R6 Mark II, so I would guess they haven't tested it yet. Might be worth asking them, as it would be a good deal at $28 apiece or two batteries for $45. https://www.wasabipower.com/collections/canon-lp-e6/products/canon-lp-e6nh-battery-by-wasabi-power?variant=42061560414435
When it comes to the LP-E6 series batteries like y... (show quote)


The price you quoted for Wasabi LP8ENH from B&H was $49 and wasn't much savings. At Amazon the price is the same for two batteries and a charger. I would say that is a pretty good savings. I didn't bother to check the other brands

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Dec 8, 2022 07:17:34   #
MadMikeOne Loc: So. NJ Shore - a bit west of Atlantic City
 
JW from PA wrote:
Hi all, I just bought a Canon R6 Mk ii and was just wondering if anyone has had any problem using generic batteries if indeed you did use them at all on the R5 or R6.

I know, I spent $2500.00 on a camera, why skimp on buying the original battery for the camera. Well if the 40 dollar battery works as well as the 90 dollar one why not save 50 bucks.

Anyway I am just throwing this out there and hope it not only would help me, but others as well.

Thanks for reading this and may you all have a Very Merry Christmas a Happy and Safe New Years.

Semper Fi,
Joe W.
Hi all, I just bought a Canon R6 Mk ii and was jus... (show quote)


Wasabi brand have worked for my husband & myself for over 10 years now. He shoots with a point & shoot and I shoot with Nikon pro-consumer & pro gear. NO failures at all. Can't say that for a couple of my Nikon brand batteries or the Sony that failed when I was literally miles from anywhere. Fortunately I had extra batteries in my pocket!

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Dec 8, 2022 08:14:58   #
starlifter Loc: Towson, MD
 
JW from PA wrote:
Hi all, I just bought a Canon R6 Mk ii and was just wondering if anyone has had any problem using generic batteries if indeed you did use them at all on the R5 or R6.

I know, I spent $2500.00 on a camera, why skimp on buying the original battery for the camera. Well if the 40 dollar battery works as well as the 90 dollar one why not save 50 bucks.

Anyway I am just throwing this out there and hope it not only would help me, but others as well.

Thanks for reading this and may you all have a Very Merry Christmas a Happy and Safe New Years.

Semper Fi,
Joe W.
Hi all, I just bought a Canon R6 Mk ii and was jus... (show quote)


I have used Wasabi batteries in the past in my Nikons. However the D850 I got last year won't recognize them . Not to worry some how I have accumulated 4 OEM batteries.

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Dec 8, 2022 08:21:48   #
starlifter Loc: Towson, MD
 
JW from PA wrote:
Hi all, I just bought a Canon R6 Mk ii and was just wondering if anyone has had any problem using generic batteries if indeed you did use them at all on the R5 or R6.

I know, I spent $2500.00 on a camera, why skimp on buying the original battery for the camera. Well if the 40 dollar battery works as well as the 90 dollar one why not save 50 bucks.

Anyway I am just throwing this out there and hope it not only would help me, but others as well.

Thanks for reading this and may you all have a Very Merry Christmas a Happy and Safe New Years.

Semper Fi,
Joe W.
Hi all, I just bought a Canon R6 Mk ii and was jus... (show quote)


I have used 3rd party batties in the past namely Wasabi's in my Nikons. The last being a D810. However the D850 I got last year won't recognize them, I have managed to accumulte 4 OEM batteries over the years.

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Dec 8, 2022 08:25:43   #
davidrb Loc: Half way there on the 45th Parallel
 
JW from PA wrote:
Hi all, I just bought a Canon R6 Mk ii and was just wondering if anyone has had any problem using generic batteries if indeed you did use them at all on the R5 or R6.

I know, I spent $2500.00 on a camera, why skimp on buying the original battery for the camera. Well if the 40 dollar battery works as well as the 90 dollar one why not save 50 bucks.

Anyway I am just throwing this out there and hope it not only would help me, but others as well.

Thanks for reading this and may you all have a Very Merry Christmas a Happy and Safe New Years.

Semper Fi,
Joe W.
Hi all, I just bought a Canon R6 Mk ii and was jus... (show quote)


Would a $1500.00 camera have worked just as well? "Why not save 50 bucks" is an excuse that indicated you have never had a battery go bad IN your camera. Risky business unless that $2500.00 camera was an ego builder. Battery acid knows no second chances. Best of luck to you.

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Dec 8, 2022 09:23:54   #
dbrugger25 Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
I have several Canon brand batteries and one Watson. I use a Canon grip that holds two batteries on my R5. I have noticed that the Watson drains faster than the Canon original, according to the battery indicator screen.

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Dec 8, 2022 09:30:50   #
JimRPhoto Loc: Raleigh NC
 
Hi Joe

I’m sorry to be the odd person out, but I no longer endorse third party batteries. I have bought several Canon camera bodies used, and all came with a Canon battery. Later on, I bought Wasabi batteries because others on this forum recommend them. No batteries ever leaked, but now a couple of years later, all the Wasabi batteries are gone and I’ve had to replace them with new Canon ones (always carry spares). So who knows how old the original Canon batteries were when I got them, but all the Canon batteries still work.

I also have an Olympus system, and one time I bought two Wasabi batteries. They are also now gone.

I did not keep notes on how long each battery was in use, but I rotate the batteries. So I would not buy aftermarket batteries in the future.

JimR

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Dec 8, 2022 10:14:58   #
Bridges Loc: Memphis, Charleston SC, now Nazareth PA
 
JW from PA wrote:
Hi all, I just bought a Canon R6 Mk ii and was just wondering if anyone has had any problem using generic batteries if indeed you did use them at all on the R5 or R6.

I know, I spent $2500.00 on a camera, why skimp on buying the original battery for the camera. Well if the 40 dollar battery works as well as the 90 dollar one why not save 50 bucks.

Anyway I am just throwing this out there and hope it not only would help me, but others as well.

Thanks for reading this and may you all have a Very Merry Christmas a Happy and Safe New Years.

Semper Fi,
Joe W.
Hi all, I just bought a Canon R6 Mk ii and was jus... (show quote)


Wasabi and Neewer batteries have worked well for me. One point though -- On my Nikon 7ii and 6ii cameras, generic batteries will not work unless they specify EN-EL15c. The earlier 15 series batteries will not work even though they fit the cameras. I don't know if Canon has a program that can identify non-conforming batteries or not, but it is something you would need to check out.

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Dec 8, 2022 10:28:24   #
photoman43
 
JW from PA wrote:
Hi all, I just bought a Canon R6 Mk ii and was just wondering if anyone has had any problem using generic batteries if indeed you did use them at all on the R5 or R6.

I know, I spent $2500.00 on a camera, why skimp on buying the original battery for the camera. Well if the 40 dollar battery works as well as the 90 dollar one why not save 50 bucks.

Anyway I am just throwing this out there and hope it not only would help me, but others as well.

Thanks for reading this and may you all have a Very Merry Christmas a Happy and Safe New Years.

Semper Fi,
Joe W.
Hi all, I just bought a Canon R6 Mk ii and was jus... (show quote)


I do not use generic or third party batteries in my Nikon cameras. I use batteries recommended by the mfgr so as not to void any warranty. For me the savings is not worth the risk.

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Dec 8, 2022 11:23:25   #
JW from PA
 
Hi all,
First off thanks to all who have responded to the acritical I posted. I knew there would pros and cons to the use of non OEM batteries. I have two OEM's that I will be using for the most part and just keeping the Wasabi around in case I need a extra one or two. I really don't see that happening as I really don't take more that a couple hours in the field taking pictures, and if I never use them fine, however if I ever need one I will have it, keeping one in the car and one in the truck and one in my motorcycle as well as one in my small Camera bag. So again thanks to everyone who responded and may you all have a Merry Christmas and a Happy and Safe New Years.

Just for the record, I have used Wasabi batteries in the past with no problems.

Semper Fi,
Joe W.

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Dec 8, 2022 13:08:28   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
I've used generics in everything - forever. So far, so good.

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Dec 8, 2022 13:09:06   #
E.L.. Shapiro Loc: Ottawa, Ontario Canada
 
Photograhy is my day job but my hobby is electronics and at one time 'for a lot of years, I partnered in a business specializing in custom build electronic flash equipment. I am not an engineer but I can tell you a lot about batteries. Some points are technical data and most of it is common sense.

It is very difficult to draw accurate info ma when you poll photographers about battery usage and brands. That is simply because not everyone has the same camera, and chargers, and used the batter in the same frequency and duty cycles. Not everyone shoots a sane quantity of images of every assignment to the outing. Weather and storage conditions can vary. Everyon does not maintain their equipment and batteries with the same level of care.

The manufacturing of batteries is not a simple matter- it is not something that can be carried out in a garage operation and I suspect there are not that many mass-production operations that manufacture specialty batteries for cameras. I further suspect that many of the OEM batteries and name brands are made in the same factories and are labeled differently.

I do find it rather amusing that folks are disparaging "cheap Chinese-made batteries" for using their Chinese-made falsh gear.

Even if one uses lots of batteries, I can't see worrying about cost savings on batteries. In digital photography, there are no film, processing, and related costs, especially if you do nto print everything you shoot. All you need to do to create the basic image is power up your cameras.

The only thg I would be concerned about is BOOTLEG batteries, those are cheap knockoffs that are illegally labeled as OEM. That is quite prevalent in the non-rechargeable battery market.

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