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Dec 4, 2022 21:06:17   #
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jcboy3 wrote:
I am having a hard time imagining carrying an 80-200/f2.8 in a vest.

I have an old school photo vest, meaning it was designed for Leica and such. It sat idle for years until I discovered m4/3 :-)

In my mind, a vacation with gear beyond m4/3 is not a vacation at all.

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Dec 4, 2022 21:16:45   #
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CHG_CANON wrote:
One would have to have a cropped-body for this lens to be relevant.

Uh huh. I have a 28-300, just cuz it was a freebie. Its a pig but it needs no other lenses to fill in any gaps. I dont see me carrying it on any vacation, but I would nevvvvuh carry a FF outfit on a vacation anywho. The whole premise of these FF vacation advice threads is a crock.


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Dec 4, 2022 21:29:27   #
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Longshadow wrote:
I do....

But youre not the OP.

You are free to (and encouraged to) initiate your own silly vacation thread centering on your 18-200 and asking what other lenses, and spare bodies, should accompany it (and what sized cards to use, and should you include protective filters).

Do it. I doubledog dare you to !

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Dec 4, 2022 21:43:00   #
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Overthehill1 wrote:
I do like the idea of less. So would you ditch the 80-200 or 35-70? Both are F 2.8, my fastest. The 12-24, which I definitely want to take, is an F4. Also have a 24mm 2.8, small and lightweight that I could sub for one of the telephotos for indoors. Should have mentioned my camera is a crop sensor without built-in flash and the lenses are DX. Final option would be to try to find something used that that would cover the the telephoto distances. Budget could be an issue there.


You just upended everything. I cannot belieeeeeve you ever considered your short zooms (for a vacation) when you have a 24/2.8. Nikon has an 18-140VR for $260. You can sell it for $125 when you get home. $135 expenditure and its as if you never bought anything. Youve blown $135 on sillier things.

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Dec 4, 2022 22:05:54   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
User ID wrote:
But youre not the OP.

You are free to (and encouraged to) initiate your own silly vacation thread centering on your 18-200 and asking what other lenses, and spare bodies, should accompany it (and what sized cards to use, and should you include protective filters).

Do it. I doubledog dare you to !

Wow, your powers of observation astound me!
Not everyone would have caught that.

Why create another thread when I can comment here? You know, like you did. Why would it be centered on the 18-200? Do you have some ideas you're thinking about?

Why would I ask what should I take? I know exactly what I would take (and not take) no matter where I go.

I don't do dares, that's so 3rd grade-ish.

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Dec 5, 2022 01:09:09   #
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Longshadow wrote:
Wow, your powers of observation astound me!
Not everyone would have caught that.

Why create another thread when I can comment here? You know, like you did. Why would it be centered on the 18-200? Do you have some ideas you're thinking about?

Why would I ask what should I take? I know exactly what I would take (and not take) no matter where I go.

I don't do dares, that's so 3rd grade-ish.
Wow, your powers of observation astound me! img s... (show quote)

"Why why why". What about why not ? You wont do it as a dare but why not consider it as a public service ? Notice how cleverly Ive snuck in a "why not" after foreshadowing it in the first line ?

Thread creation is barely, tenuously, related to any need for useful info, as born out by our number one creator. Entertainment value is the criterion.

So why was I trying to recruit you? Simply cuz you have an 18-200 and unfortunately I do not. Globe trotting Hogsters would not be entertained by eclectic hodge podge gear like mine.

Que sera sera ...

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Dec 5, 2022 03:03:00   #
mikee
 
Be sure to mask! Wife and I just returned from a Mediterranean cruise, and we both caught covid. Best wishes.

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Dec 5, 2022 05:29:38   #
David in Dallas Loc: Dallas, Texas, USA
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
One would have to have a cropped-body for this lens to be relevant.
There are 28-200mm zooms for full-size cameras. I used a Tamron one on my Nikon full-frame film cameras for years, and was very happy with them. I did have a Vivitar 28mm f/1.8 for indoor shots, though.

I've been to Hawaii several times, both by air and by sea. I found the DX 18-200mm zoom did just about everything I needed. However, for Africa I did also take a 200-500mm zoom on a second camera. FWIW, a lot of my shots in Hawaii were at 18mm (my widest), because the scenery is fabulous. The ability to drill down on a subject without having to change a lens was a plus. How you achieve that with the lenses you have is for you to solve.

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Dec 5, 2022 05:47:20   #
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Overthehill1 wrote:
After waiting two years, we're leaving in mid-January. Plan now is to take my 80-200 zoom, 35-70 zoom, 12-24 wide angle and a 1.4 teleconverter, all of which can be carried in a vest, leaving behind the 200-500 and 300mm. Any thoughts or suggestions?


Wow! That is a lot of gear to haul around. My wife and I do cruises and for the first few I hauled around a similar kit as you described. I was doing a lot of work for little in return. I found it difficult to haul around both on airplanes and ground transportation. Shore excursions also move pretty fast so you do not always have time to select and use the various lenses and equipment you are carrying. Also, do you really want to change lenses and expose your expensive camera bodies to the ocean environment on a regular basis?

I purchased a Sony RX100 vIII and never looked back. It works great, fits in a pocket, and is easily transported with me inflight and ground transportation. It also takes great images and shoots in RAW.

I have now also purchased a Panasonic Lumix DC-ZS70. It is very similar to the RX100 but has a 24-700mm zoom lens. Again, it is very portable and easily carried. I look forward to trying it out soon.

My mantra is to travel light and enjoy the experience. You will still get lots of images that most likely you will never look at again!

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Dec 5, 2022 06:49:08   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
Overthehill1 wrote:
After waiting two years, we're leaving in mid-January. Plan now is to take my 80-200 zoom, 35-70 zoom, 12-24 wide angle and a 1.4 teleconverter, all of which can be carried in a vest, leaving behind the 200-500 and 300mm. Any thoughts or suggestions?


Your taking way too much, and the vest is a very bad idea.
Instead take a Sony HX 99, it is the only camera you will ever need on any vacation.

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Dec 5, 2022 06:54:39   #
Tracy B. Loc: Indiana
 
My Husband and I were just on a vacation in the Hawaiian Islands in late September. I agree with Chg_Canon. I would only bring two lenses. I really don't think you'll need a telephoto lens. I used mostly my wide angle lenses. We stayed 3 days each on 4 different Islands. If you get a chance I highly recommend taking the Sunrise or Sunset tours.

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Dec 5, 2022 07:01:11   #
NormanTheGr8 Loc: Racine, Wisconsin
 
For travel, I went with a Sony a6600 and adapted my Tamron 18_400 and a fast wide angle for nights

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Dec 5, 2022 07:48:45   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
bsprague wrote:
Walking around with a vest full of gear may not be what you want to do. What do you do with it all when you stop at a café, gallery, museum, shop or other fun tourist place. Are you going on excursions from the ship? Is there room for all your gear on the bus or van? Will the tour group enjoy waiting for you while you set up the right lens and tripod for the shot?

And, where do you put it when you are on board? The room safes are not nearly big enough for even part of your gear.

Unless you and all your travel companions share the sole purpose of serious photography, the stress and worry about packing around, storing and securing abundant gear can ruin the joy of a travel adventure.

Consider buying a capable, compact "travel camera" and selling it when you return if you don't like it. In a similar situation a few years ago I called B&H. A salesperson insisted I should exercise my return rights if I bought a recommended compact camera for a cruise. He even extended the return period to a couple weeks beyond the end of the cruise. I still have that early version Sony RX100 and took it on a short trip last week.
Walking around with a vest full of gear may not be... (show quote)


I believe that there was no tripod mentioned.
2-3 lenses is not overkill.
I would take the 3 mentioned and have fun.
Not required to carry all 3 at all times, depends upon the day's schedule.
Take all 3

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Dec 5, 2022 07:53:38   #
jbk224 Loc: Long Island, NY
 
Overthehill1 wrote:
After waiting two years, we're leaving in mid-January. Plan now is to take my 80-200 zoom, 35-70 zoom, 12-24 wide angle and a 1.4 teleconverter, all of which can be carried in a vest, leaving behind the 200-500 and 300mm. Any thoughts or suggestions?


I agree with Chg_Canon's advice.
Yet there is more to consider based on where in Hawaii you go and what body you have.
It appears you are using a D500 (from prior posts). If this is the case, then the crop sensor absolutely affects which lenses you take. (And if you are now using a FF camera...I would still stick with my suggestions).
And, if you plan is to go to Pearl Harbor, then you should take your 12-24, since you will need the 18mm most of the time--particularly inside the Missouri and other areas. The 12-24 will end up being your most used when visiting and exploring most places.
I generally do not like to suggest one take lenses that they do not already own. I would consider renting an 18-200 to fill the balance of your range--especially when in most of the natural wonderlands that you visit. I think that the 80-200 will miss too much. And, bringing 3 lenses and a teleconverter is overkill.
Last...you need to check the rules for cameras in different places--particularly Pearl.
Most of all....have a great time!

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Dec 5, 2022 08:08:34   #
billmck Loc: Central KY
 
Overthehill1 wrote:
After waiting two years, we're leaving in mid-January. Plan now is to take my 80-200 zoom, 35-70 zoom, 12-24 wide angle and a 1.4 teleconverter, all of which can be carried in a vest, leaving behind the 200-500 and 300mm. Any thoughts or suggestions?


I have traveled quite a bit, including a dozen or more cruises. Unless you consider yourself a professional photographer, it’s best to cut back to just one or two lenses. I usually take my Tamron 18-400, as I can get both ends of the spectrum, albeit slow for inside shots. When I go back and look at the photos I took, invariably they’re almost all something I could have gotten with a 24-70. Not to mention the hassle of lugging all that equipment around on what’s supposed to be a leisure cruise.

Bill

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