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Dec 2, 2022 21:10:40   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Michael Sabetsky wrote:
That is your opinion. Others may not think that. I have a Nikon D5 with a 28-300 lens & Sigma 150-600 lens & I get great photos. Not all are perfect so I use Corel Print House Deluxe and/or Adobe Photoshop Elements. Don't need no high priced photo editor or a camera that does what I want now. I've been told many years ago when I was using a Nikon D300 & a 18- 300mm lens that I have a great eye for taking photo by a news anchor I had sent photo I printed out from photos I took at Zoo Miami. It's all in the eye of the beholder & what they want & like to use no matter what other people think. I was a member of a photo club in Coral Springs & they would have professional photographer critic members photo. I could disagree more with their opinions.
That is your opinion. Others may not think that. I... (show quote)

I'll guess you don't know it's a tongue-in-cheek comment.

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Dec 2, 2022 21:16:40   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
The difference between who you are and the photographer you want to be is about 5 minutes in PhotoShop.

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Dec 2, 2022 21:18:49   #
Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.
 
Longshadow wrote:
I'll guess you don't know it's a tongue-in-cheek comment.


If he’s such a great comedian and clever orator why do you need to tell people that what he says is a joke or tongue in cheek, etc. If he really was all that witty and/or clever he wouldn’t need a clean up crew following behind making explanations for him.

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Dec 2, 2022 21:29:17   #
LFingar Loc: Claverack, NY
 
Mac wrote:
There is no way of knowing. Unless you can communicate with the dead. All that can be done is to artificially give the dead person characteristics you wish him to have.


No. Ansel Adams was obviously a smart guy. He would recognize that less time spent in a darkroom equals more time to shoot photos.

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Dec 2, 2022 21:30:45   #
Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.
 
LFingar wrote:
No. Ansel Adams was obviously a smart guy. He would recognize that less time spent in a darkroom equals more time to shoot photos.


Whatever you say. You know him better than I do.

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Dec 2, 2022 21:32:57   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
LFingar wrote:
No. Ansel Adams was obviously a smart guy. He would recognize that less time spent in a darkroom equals more time to shoot photos.


Or more time for PhotoShop.

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Dec 2, 2022 21:48:53   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
tcthome wrote:
Just do it! (quote from the from the movie, The Water Boy)


I did. Now to get her to settle on what SUV she wants. That will be the hard part. In the 70s when we got married the first time I went grocery shopping with her, she spent 5-10 minutes each looking over everything in the deli and meat department in case one package was better than the others. For some things, ok, but baloney?!?!?

And to make it worse, we were in the same market where we both worked and first met. We knew the place inside and out. The guy on duty stocking the meat cases finally went back and got hamburger as it came out of the grinder and packaged it just for her. He thought I was going to have a nervous breakdown if things didn't speed up. My shopping style was to make the list in the order things were in the store then go in one door, up and down every aisle grabbing things off the shelf as I passed, to a checkout stand, and I would bag for the cashier because I was faster than the high school bag boys and girls, pay and then out the door. Anywhere from 10 to 20 minutes total, and I was in and gone. Even with something like a long Thanksgiving shopping list.

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Dec 2, 2022 21:52:13   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Mac wrote:
If he’s such a great comedian and clever orator why do you need to tell people that what he says is a joke or tongue in cheek, etc. If he really was all that witty and/or clever he wouldn’t need a clean up crew following behind making explanations for him.

Some people are dense?
They just don't get it?
They don't have a sense of humor?
They're way too serious about things?
They have tunnel vision?
They're not open to other thoughts?
They don't like tongue-in-cheek?

I just want to make sure people don't get pissed at someone for the wrong reason.
If they will, they need a valid reason.
(I've also mentioned it regarding other people's posts (quips), not just his.)

Does that answer your question?

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Dec 2, 2022 21:53:06   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
ArundoD wrote:
LOL!! Good photographers didn't exist before mirrorless cameras? ; )


No Photographers existed before mirrorless cameras as the first 100 years after the invention of the camera none of them had mirrors until the invention of the SLR and TLR.

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Dec 2, 2022 22:01:23   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
LFingar wrote:
No. Ansel Adams was obviously a smart guy. He would recognize that less time spent in a darkroom equals more time to shoot photos.


I attended a lecture by him once, and later a couple by his head assistant. The assistant said Adams was even better compared to other photographers in the darkroom than he was behind a camera. He and all Adams' other helpers were trained by Adams to his standards, so they could run the darkroom and print production/sales side of the studio to allow Adams more time to travel and take photographs.
Most don't know it, but Adams at times experimented with Medium format film and 35 mm. He usually didn't bother labeling which published images were taken with what camera. He also did more than a little color work.

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Dec 2, 2022 22:37:34   #
dustie Loc: Nose to the grindstone
 
robertjerl wrote:
I attended a lecture by him once, and later a couple by his head assistant. The assistant said Adams was even better compared to other photographers in the darkroom than he was behind a camera. He and all Adams' other helpers were trained by Adams to his standards, so they could run the darkroom and print production/sales side of the studio to allow Adams more time to travel and take photographs.
Most don't know it, but Adams at times experimented with Medium format film and 35 mm. He usually didn't bother labeling which published images were taken with what camera. He also did more than a little color work.
I attended a lecture by him once, and later a coup... (show quote)


Now, that is interesting!
Did it seem to you Ansel was as good at lecturing, explaining, motivating, instructing participants/attendees in a setting like that as he was at working his darkroom expertise to make the photos show what he envisioned?

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Dec 2, 2022 23:53:15   #
ABJanes Loc: Jersey Boy now Virginia
 
gcolegate1 wrote:
A good photographer can use any type of camera. A great photographer doesn’t need photoshop to fix his mistakes.



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Dec 3, 2022 00:44:46   #
OldSchool-WI Loc: Brandon, Wisconsin 53919
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
A good photograph has the most pixels.
A good photographer has a mirrorless camera.
A great photographer masters PhotoShop.


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What malarky:----A good photograph is a work of art with whatever "axe" was used. Maybe you find your mirrorless more "versatile" to your liking and skills, but that has noting to do with making a photo good. Nor the pixel peeping as they like to call pixel counting in UHH. m4/3ds and even phone cameras can make good photos and and high resolution ones with good shadow and highlight detail as well. And lastly ---mastering PhotoShop has nothing at all to do with a good photo. In fact it is detrimental to good reproduction--adding more variables where they are not needed, creating a synthetic look which most would consider---ugly.--------------------ew

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Dec 3, 2022 00:50:55   #
lreisner Loc: Union,NJ
 
Iron Sight wrote:
Why do some prefer there high end$$ Full Frame camera to have a relatively smaller sensor resolution.


Different cameras are designed for different purposes. A camera such as the Sony A7S III is only 12.1 megapixels but is an amazing low light camera which is really designed more for video than pictures. It can shoot at amazingly high ISO levels without generating noise. It has a 15 stop wide dynamic range. This is a specialty full framed camera with lots of great technology built in. Whether Nikon or Canon build an equivalent camera I do not know.

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Dec 3, 2022 02:31:13   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
dustie wrote:
Now, that is interesting!
Did it seem to you Ansel was as good at lecturing, explaining, motivating, instructing participants/attendees in a setting like that as he was at working his darkroom expertise to make the photos show what he envisioned?


His lecture and slide show was excellent. Some of the stories he had to go with his images of how he found the subjects, shot the image and processed in the darkroom had the students at UCLA on the edge of their seats with a few cheers thrown in.

A guy who ran the camera store where I bought all my stuff, including for use in the classroom in the part of LA where I lived and taught at the local high school at the time gave me the ticket, a friend of his at UCLA had sent him a dozen to give out to his customers.
That guy's store was only 3 blocks away, he was my "go to" for help and advice. When I walked in the shop the day after he got the tickets, he handed me the first one he gave out.

That was the year I taught 5 periods of Basic Photography on an emergency basis when the Photo Teacher got promoted to be an administrator only three days before the Fall Semester started, and no more photo teachers were available in the Los Angeles District hiring pool. But it was my hobby and I knew enough to teach Basic. So they broke up my history classes and scattered the kids to other teachers, and I became the Photo Teacher for one year. The Principal renamed the class "History and Practice of Photography" so he could justify having a credentialed history teacher take over the class.
That was pretty much a fun year. I did have a guy forced into one of the classes to get "art" credits to graduate. He was a discipline problem and had flunked two other art classes, and none of the art teachers would take him in a class. All the other students were there because they wanted to be. A lot different from a room where 1/3 of the kids hated taking history, but it was a required class for graduation.
Oh, that kid's Dad was a Lt of Detectives with LAPD, and he thought because his Dad was a big shot cop he could do anything and get away with it. The day I caught him smoking in the darkroom and the Principal and Boys Dean (the former photo teacher) called his father in for a conference, he found out he was wrong. He was almost an angel the rest of the year because his Dad told him if he got in trouble one more time, he was off to a private Military High School with a reputation for "fixing" problem students.

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