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Dec 1, 2022 10:57:55   #
autofocus Loc: North Central Connecticut
 
Longshadow wrote:
Probably. New person this tine.
And it will no doubt happen again.

Relax.......


true that...you can't make 3 x 5=16 no matter how hard you try. Of course, with math being taught today I suppose anything is possible ;))

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Dec 1, 2022 11:25:06   #
fetzler Loc: North West PA
 
wannabe63 wrote:
I have a Cannon Pro 10 printer that can print up to 13" x 19". I have an image that is 8536 x 4558 that I want to print. If I print the image at 13" x 19" some of it gets cropped out which is not acceptable. I would like to use as much of the 13" x 19" paper as possible. What does the size of the image need to be reduced to so that as much of the photo paper is used and not be cropped?

I use LR 6.14 to process and Canon Print Studio Pro to print.



The aspect ratio o of the paper (as a reduced fraction) is 1.46:1. The aspect ration of your image is 1.87:1.
This means that you cannot print the whole image (edge to edge) without cropping some of your image.

1.87 x 10 = 18.7 (close enough to 19). 1x 10 = 10. It is possible to print an 18.7 x 10 image on your paper.

If the print is centered on the paper you will have borders of .15 in in the long side and 1.5 inches on the short side. Borders of about .25 in minimum are useful for matting photographs.

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Dec 1, 2022 11:52:57   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
autofocus wrote:
true that...you can't make 3 x 5=16 no matter how hard you try. Of course, with math being taught today I suppose anything is possible ;))

Yea, sadly.....

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Dec 1, 2022 14:40:44   #
kenabr Loc: S.E.Wisconsin
 
wannabe63 wrote:
I have a Cannon Pro 10 printer that can print up to 13" x 19". I have an image that is 8536 x 4558 that I want to print. If I print the image at 13" x 19" some of it gets cropped out which is not acceptable. I would like to use as much of the 13" x 19" paper as possible. What does the size of the image need to be reduced to so that as much of the photo paper is used and not be cropped?

I use LR 6.14 to process and Canon Print Studio Pro to print.


I use lightroom classic and CanonPro 100 printer. I often print 4x6 ratio to 7.33x11 on letter size (8.5x11}paper. If I'm printing to to fill to the 11 dimension i move the the height slider until the width hits the 11 inch width and the height shows 7.33. Would work the same for any size paper.

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Dec 1, 2022 15:50:23   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
jcboy3 wrote:
I have a Pro-1000 and two Pro-100's. I've never seen a roll paper adapter for the Canon printers. Do you have any information about these?


They may not have it anymore, I last saw it years ago.
But YouTube has some videos on how to cobble together a way to feed roll paper. One video I glanced at involved cutting and taping a box to the back of the printer, with the roll of paper feeding from the box.

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Dec 1, 2022 15:55:51   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
burkphoto wrote:
8536/4558 is an aspect ratio of 1.87. The paper has an aspect ratio of 1.47. So obviously, you can either letterbox (leave blank paper top and bottom), or crop the image to fill the paper, or do some combination of the two (crop AND letterbox to some other aspect ratio).

If you fill the paper from left to right, That is 19" by 10.16". I would probably do that, with 1/3 of the blank paper (0.95") above, and 2/3 of the paper (1.89") below the image.

This is a typical question we get on UHH. It is IMPOSSIBLE to fit a square peg in a round hole without leaving space empty other than at the peg corners. It is IMPOSSIBLE to fit one aspect ratio — the image shape — onto another aspect ratio — the paper shape — without similar compromise. Either crop the image, or leave blank paper, or add a title and signature, or add a colored border, or do some other creative voodoo that suits you.

Please don't distort the image by stretching it. That, frankly, looks quite stupid, especially if the subject is at all recognizable as a person, animal, or familiar-shaped object.
8536/4558 is an aspect ratio of 1.87. The paper ha... (show quote)


Oh for the old days of glass plates or sheet film in the same sizes as photo paper and contact printing. Not! My lungs do not miss the fumes at all. But a sensor in the same ratio as the paper? Or a sensor you could set the ratio of the image with camera controls. Or maybe not, it would probably rival a new car in price.

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Dec 1, 2022 16:03:58   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
autofocus wrote:
true that...you can't make 3 x 5=16 no matter how hard you try. Of course, with math being taught today I suppose anything is possible ;))


Once I was sent to cover a math class during my free period (more $$ so I always took those if I wasn't busy) and it was beginning algebra. A kid came up to ask if I could help him, even though I was a history teacher (he was in one of my classes). Well as it turned out it was one of the few math problems I remembered how to do so I grabbed a piece of paper and did the problem for him. He looked at it, checked the answer page in the back of the book and said "You have the right answer but you didn't do the problem right." Then he gave me the book open to the page for that type of problem. What I had done in 4 steps the book took 11 steps to do. No wonder the kids were having so much trouble with math! Or maybe the guy who wrote the book owned stock in a company that made college ruled paper.

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Dec 1, 2022 16:19:45   #
autofocus Loc: North Central Connecticut
 
robertjerl wrote:
Once I was sent to cover a math class during my free period (more $$ so I always took those if I wasn't busy) and it was beginning algebra. A kid came up to ask if I could help him, even though I was a history teacher (he was in one of my classes). Well as it turned out it was one of the few math problems I remembered how to do so I grabbed a piece of paper and did the problem for him. He looked at it, checked the answer page in the back of the book and said "You have the right answer but you didn't do the problem right." Then he gave me the book open to the page for that type of problem. What I had done in 4 steps the book took 11 steps to do. No wonder the kids were having so much trouble with math! Or maybe the guy who wrote the book owned stock in a company that made college ruled paper.
Once I was sent to cover a math class during my fr... (show quote)


and ask them to make change! Nothing will confuse them more when you bought something for 55 cents and you give them a dollar and 5 cents

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Dec 1, 2022 19:19:29   #
dannac Loc: 60 miles SW of New Orleans
 
wannabe63 wrote:
What does the size of the image need to be reduced to so that as much of the photo paper is used and not be cropped?



If using 300 PPI/DPI

7500 x 3910

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Dec 1, 2022 20:53:38   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
autofocus wrote:
and ask them to make change! Nothing will confuse them more when you bought something for 55 cents and you give them a dollar and 5 cents


I worked at a large supermarket in college and part-time the first few years I was teaching (13 years part and full time total). I get a minimum pension from it. Not only that, but I would do basic math in my head, count out change etc. and some of the younger clerks would goggle like I was doing Merlin class magic with both hands.

The best thing I got from that store was my wife. Her family lived a 1/2 away and she was always in and out on errands for her Mom. Then she got a job as a clerk on the night shift. Being a Tom Boy, when things were slow, she would come help us on the night stock crew. When we closed the store at midnight or 1 AM, the whole crew would go to a Denny's for a middle of the night breakfast. The rest of the crew noticed that we were attracted to each other and one night when we arrived at Denny's first to claim a table, the rest of them didn't show up. Leaving us together on an unplanned date. Things progressed from there. At our wedding, all but two of the participants were from our friends on the market crew and that night was the market company's regional Christmas party with our store's liquor manager as the host. They insisted we be there and announced to the several hundred people that we had gotten married that morning and the dance was also a reception for us. We had the hotel's bridal suite that night, and they saved a bottle of high-end Italian Sparkling Wine they sent to our room with us. Having tried both Sparkling Wine and Champagne, we both preferred the Sparkling Wine which is actually the Italian version of champagne. But tastes better. A few years later, we both stopped drinking altogether when we became members of the Baha'i Faith.

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Dec 1, 2022 21:05:38   #
autofocus Loc: North Central Connecticut
 
robertjerl wrote:
I worked at a large supermarket in college and part-time the first few years I was teaching (13 years part and full time total). I get a minimum pension from it. Not only that, but I would do basic math in my head, count out change etc. and some of the younger clerks would goggle like I was doing Merlin class magic with both hands.

The best thing I got from that store was my wife. Her family lived a 1/2 away and she was always in and out on errands for her Mom. Then she got a job as a clerk on the night shift. Being a Tom Boy, when things were slow, she would come help us on the night stock crew. When we closed the store at midnight or 1 AM, the whole crew would go to a Denny's for a middle of the night breakfast. The rest of the crew noticed that we were attracted to each other and one night when we arrived at Denny's first to claim a table, the rest of them didn't show up. Leaving us together on an unplanned date. Things progressed from there. At our wedding, all but two of the participants were from our friends on the market crew and that night was the market company's regional Christmas party with our store's liquor manager as the host. They insisted we be there and announced to the several hundred people that we had gotten married that morning and the dance was also a reception for us. We had the hotel's bridal suite that night, and they saved a bottle of high-end Italian Sparkling Wine they sent to our room with us. Having tried both Sparkling Wine and Champagne, we both preferred the Sparkling Wine which is actually the Italian version of champagne. But tastes better. A few years later, we both stopped drinking altogether when we became members of the Baha'i Faith.
I worked at a large supermarket in college and par... (show quote)


that's such a nice story, thanks for sharing it here with us! So, working in that supermarket had you making change in your head, and also brought about a far more important "change" in your life!

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Dec 1, 2022 21:32:18   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
autofocus wrote:
that's such a nice story, thanks for sharing it here with us! So, working in that supermarket had you making change in your head, and also brought about a far more important "change" in your life!


Larry, the guy who was the assistant liquor clerk was a good friend and best man at our wedding, the maid of honor was a friend of Debra's and the two dated for a while after that. He was a math whiz, and to practice the night crew would yell out the quantity and individual price of the cases we were putting on the shelf while he punched them into a ten key adding machine, someone would randomly yell "total" and he would hit total and do it in his head and try to yell out the answer before the ten key had finished cycling. Only twice in the years I knew him was he wrong, and then only by putting the decimal point off one place. Plus, he beat the ten key's cycle almost every time.

The last time I met him, years ago, he had a Master's in Math from Cal Tech and was just finishing his PhD. He was of course an Assistant Professor of Higher Math at a high ranked school by that time. Later from a mutual friend I heard he was a full Professor and in line to be department head.

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Dec 1, 2022 21:52:44   #
linda lagace
 
Photoshop has an image size choice that you can use to adjust the size of your picture. (make sure you maintain the same aspect as the original) You can add a frame or border of various colors if your paper size is not the same aspect as your picture. I assume that lightroom has a comparable feature???

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Dec 1, 2022 22:49:59   #
autofocus Loc: North Central Connecticut
 
robertjerl wrote:
Larry, the guy who was the assistant liquor clerk was a good friend and best man at our wedding, the maid of honor was a friend of Debra's and the two dated for a while after that. He was a math whiz, and to practice the night crew would yell out the quantity and individual price of the cases we were putting on the shelf while he punched them into a ten key adding machine, someone would randomly yell "total" and he would hit total and do it in his head and try to yell out the answer before the ten key had finished cycling. Only twice in the years I knew him was he wrong, and then only by putting the decimal point off one place. Plus, he beat the ten key's cycle almost every time.

The last time I met him, years ago, he had a Master's in Math from Cal Tech and was just finishing his PhD. He was of course an Assistant Professor of Higher Math at a high ranked school by that time. Later from a mutual friend I heard he was a full Professor and in line to be department head.
Larry, the guy who was the assistant liquor clerk ... (show quote)


sounds like a success story, but can he take decent photo? haha. Everyone has strengths and weaknesses, it's what you do with your strengths that matter.

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Dec 1, 2022 23:17:14   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
autofocus wrote:
sounds like a success story, but can he take decent photo? haha. Everyone has strengths and weaknesses, it's what you do with your strengths that matter.


Never saw him with a camera in his hand.

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