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Nov 15, 2022 18:49:26   #
HRoss Loc: Longmont, CO
 
The image is quite interesting, but clearly not a photograph. As others have said, it's like a painting, pretty, but when it's as simple as typing in a phrase and awaiting a result, everyone will be able to do it, thus no creativity is needed.

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Nov 16, 2022 04:05:41   #
RodeoMan Loc: St Joseph, Missouri
 
Maybe part of question will come down to honesty. Imagine a soldier comes home unannounced from deployment overseas and walks in and surprises his mother. A photograph is taken showing the surprise on mom's face when he or she comes through the door. Now lets give AI the criteria of a soldier coming home and surprising mom. You would be provided with a wonderful image but not an honest one in my view.
I have also often said that the best way to judge the quality of an image is to look between the four corners of that image and when one wonders if a woman is beautiful or a man handsome, one does not inquire about the pedigree of the person in question. With AI we may have beautiful images provided to us, but would have to ask if they are representative of the reality they allegedly depict. I can also see all sorts of potential for shenannigans in these current political times.

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Nov 16, 2022 08:44:01   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
People buy pictures to hang on their wall. Most of the time the subject is something completely unknown to them. For all they know it could have been produced by AI. Does it matter?

Of course people also hang pictures of things they know about. The only thing AI will contribute to this is to make people smile or look at the viewer.

I shot a 90th birthday with about 50 people a week or two ago. I used AI on some of the group shots. When you get 12 people in a group and use flash (the party was late in the day in a downstairs room with poor lighting) it's sometimes a challenge to deal with blinkers, distracted subjects, and people who aren't looking happy. Although my usual approach is to take several bursts of 3-4 shots (to address blinking), and swap heads to get smiling people, AI made the process faster by moving mouths into a smile and redirecting eyes to look at the camera.

IMHO, although the resulting pictures don't strictly present reality, they show something close enough to be useful in a family photo. The subjects are capable of smiling and/or looking at the camera. AI just makes it happen.

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Nov 16, 2022 10:31:51   #
steve_stoneblossom Loc: Rhode Island, USA
 
DirtFarmer wrote:
People buy pictures to hang on their wall. Most of the time the subject is something completely unknown to them. For all they know it could have been produced by AI. Does it matter?

Of course people also hang pictures of things they know about. The only thing AI will contribute to this is to make people smile or look at the viewer.

I shot a 90th birthday with about 50 people a week or two ago. I used AI on some of the group shots. When you get 12 people in a group and use flash (the party was late in the day in a downstairs room with poor lighting) it's sometimes a challenge to deal with blinkers, distracted subjects, and people who aren't looking happy. Although my usual approach is to take several bursts of 3-4 shots (to address blinking), and swap heads to get smiling people, AI made the process faster by moving mouths into a smile and redirecting eyes to look at the camera.

IMHO, although the resulting pictures don't strictly present reality, they show something close enough to be useful in a family photo. The subjects are capable of smiling and/or looking at the camera. AI just makes it happen.
People buy pictures to hang on their wall. Most of... (show quote)


But to me there is a distinction between using AI for alterations or manipulations and using it for creation.

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Nov 16, 2022 17:19:36   #
jlg1000 Loc: Uruguay / South America
 
HRoss wrote:
The image is quite interesting, but clearly not a photograph. As others have said, it's like a painting, pretty, but when it's as simple as typing in a phrase and awaiting a result, everyone will be able to do it, thus no creativity is needed.


Well I played a little with the controls... I believe it looks more realistic now.

This is the command: "a sail boat on a smooth sea on sunset with puffy clouds"


(Download)

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Nov 16, 2022 17:23:18   #
steve_stoneblossom Loc: Rhode Island, USA
 
Well, #2 certainly looks more realistic than #1. Was there anything involved in "playing with the controls" above and beyond fine tuning the command you used?

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Nov 17, 2022 06:44:00   #
jlg1000 Loc: Uruguay / South America
 
steve_stoneblossom wrote:
Well, #2 certainly looks more realistic than #1. Was there anything involved in "playing with the controls" above and beyond fine tuning the command you used?


Eh... Yes, changed the engine, the model parameters, number of generations...

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