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Is smart phone photography killing interest and use of mirrorless digital cameras ?
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Nov 13, 2022 23:45:24   #
RodeoMan Loc: St Joseph, Missouri
 
CrazyJane wrote:
This issue comes up again and again and it's a silly discussion. Because the should be not about the pictures but instead about the tools. Comparing the functionality of a phone cam to the functionality and flexibility of a DSLR (mirrorless or otherwise -- doesn't matter) is like comparing a hack saw to a scalpel. If all you care about is posting colorful pictures on Instagram, then stick with the phone because it'll get you beautiful 72-ppi pics that look great online. But if you're a serious photographer with serious goals, use a serious tool.
This issue comes up again and again and it's a sil... (show quote)


You say that "if you are a serious photographer with serious goals, use a serious tool" Seriousness rests in the person wielding the tool and not in the tool itself. Granted there are categories of photography that require specific equipment, astro, micro, birds, especially in flight, but in all cases the best way to ascertain if a particular piece of photographic equipment did the job it was asked to do is to look between the four corners of the image it produced. Having our collective noses in the air doesn't improve any of our images one whit.

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Nov 14, 2022 00:10:09   #
RodeoMan Loc: St Joseph, Missouri
 
Day.Old.Pizza wrote:
The younger crowd is satisfied with phone pictures like they were satisfied with digital music. They are learning that an album on a decent stereo is better than digital. Many will likely cycle back to DSLR cameras in time for the same reason.


There are any number of reports about the resurgence of interest in film photography among young people brought about in not a small way by a desire for something in their lives that is slower and more contemplative. One person I saw dicussing this said that when he has worked to get an image and has waited for it, when he finally has it, it has more meaning for him. Maybe all of us want some meaning in our lives.

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Nov 14, 2022 00:21:47   #
RodeoMan Loc: St Joseph, Missouri
 
I suspect that most images being made today only make it to the screen on the back of the device that was used to capture them and are not printed for the possibility of being viewed in the future. In terms of what actually is printed, I would guess that more printed images would come from cameras rather than from cellphones but have no data to support my contention.

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Nov 14, 2022 00:47:58   #
OldSchool-WI Loc: Brandon, Wisconsin 53919
 
Silkway2017 wrote:
If it is a useless question for you Bill Nikon..why do you bother to answer indeed ?
Technology evolves rapidly and no matter what you say it will surprise us very quickly.Take for example gasoline cars.
They are getting replaced with electrical vehicles, Florida Power & Light (FPL) is starting to build charging stations throughout FL....and soon gasoline cars will become white elephants in the sea of EVs.


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If the first response is useless prattle, the second response about electric cars being more than an expensive novelty is double so. We will all be dead for probably fifty years or more by the time electric overtakes internal combustion cars.-----ew

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Nov 14, 2022 06:29:02   #
traderjohn Loc: New York City
 
Longshadow wrote:
Apple is going after the "Instamatic" crowd.

"Complete photography" is relative, eh?


They are going after whatever label you want to apply—people who spend money.

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Nov 14, 2022 07:21:14   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
History tells us that the practice of photography changes in response to the advance of technology. Nevertheless, worthy photographs still result from attention to effective composition, good exposure, interesting subject, and intention.
MrBob wrote:
It does not take much vision to see where the road is headed.... Transitions are taking place whether we like it or not.

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Nov 14, 2022 08:47:01   #
Retina Loc: Near Charleston,SC
 
OldTrojanFan wrote:
Never is a long time! They won't likely replace them in my lifetime, but by the time my grandkids are grandparents I would be willing to bet that mirrorless tech as known today is a relic. When I was a lad the only one with a wrist radio was Dick Tracy, and only the Jetson's had TV's that hung on the wall. Phone cams won't do some things "real cameras" can do but the gap is much less than many of you want to admit. I wouldn't be shocked if my grandkids were doing holographic photography with a cam the size of my phone.
Never is a long time! They won't likely replace t... (show quote)

You could be right. The iOS and Android versions of short depth of field and algorithm driven bokeh SOOP are impressive.

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Nov 14, 2022 09:03:29   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
traderjohn wrote:
They are going after whatever label you want to apply—people who spend money.


Yea, that too!

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Nov 14, 2022 09:05:12   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
anotherview wrote:
History tells us that the practice of photography changes in response to the advance of technology. Nevertheless, worthy photographs still result from attention to effective composition, good exposure, interesting subject, and intention.


Amazing how that works, eh?
Only the acquisition method changes.

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Nov 14, 2022 09:08:09   #
insman1132 Loc: Southwest Florida
 
Who was it? I think Ansel Adams (?) who once wrote, "A good photographer will get great pictures with a Pin Hole Camera!"

Maybe that really says, So much for expensive equipment! Is it really the Brush that paints the masterpiece, or is it the Brush in the hands of the Master that paints the masterpiece??

It is probably really the same for the Camera equipment used.

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Nov 14, 2022 09:09:45   #
Silkway2017
 
Another example of rapidly evolving technologies: streaming video practically replaced DVDs in a very short period of time, newspapers are almost obsolete, not too many people are buying books anymore, CARPLAY replaced the need in dedicated GPS device, CD player, voice commands are replacing keyboard interface... Everywhere you look you will see huge changes in our daily life including photography the way we knew it.

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Nov 14, 2022 09:15:44   #
Retina Loc: Near Charleston,SC
 
insman1132 wrote:
Who was it? I think Ansel Adams (?) who once wrote, "A good photographer will get great pictures with a Pin Hole Camera!"

Maybe that really says, So much for expensive equipment! Is it really the Brush that paints the masterpiece, or is it the Brush in the hands of the Master that paints the masterpiece??

It is probably really the same for the Camera equipment used.

I recall my daughter flunked a science project because the photos from her pinhole camera were "too good". Dad was not happy, especially after I made her do all the work.

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Nov 14, 2022 09:23:55   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
We may say so because photography functions as a craft that may rise to art in the right hands.
insman1132 wrote:
Who was it? I think Ansel Adams (?) who once wrote, "A good photographer will get great pictures with a Pin Hole Camera!"

Maybe that really says, So much for expensive equipment! Is it really the Brush that paints the masterpiece, or is it the Brush in the hands of the Master that paints the masterpiece??

It is probably really the same for the Camera equipment used.

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Nov 14, 2022 09:25:04   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Silkway2017 wrote:
Another example of rapidly evolving technologies: streaming video practically replaced DVDs in a very short period of time, newspapers are almost obsolete, not too many people are buying books anymore, CARPLAY replaced the need in dedicated GPS device, CD player, voice commands are replacing keyboard interface... Everywhere you look you will see huge changes in our daily life including photography the way we knew it.

"Streaming" is not media dependent.
DVDs are just being replaced by memory cards (and USB fobs), in all aspects of use.

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Nov 14, 2022 09:25:45   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
insman1132 wrote:
Who was it? I think Ansel Adams (?) who once wrote, "A good photographer will get great pictures with a Pin Hole Camera!"

Maybe that really says, So much for expensive equipment! Is it really the Brush that paints the masterpiece, or is it the Brush in the hands of the Master that paints the masterpiece??

It is probably really the same for the Camera equipment used.


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