jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY

This is the type of post we get on our local area bulletin board. I just checked, and I'm not missing any goats.

cyan Loc: Northern NJ

I've been getting a lot of messages I know nothing about. "Nextdoor" is messed up.

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

People there also complain a lot...... About almost anything.

My favorite is the people complaining about a new development going in near them, "SAVE THE GREEN SPACE!",
but the development THEY live in was green space 20 years ago (or less).......

pmorin Loc: Huntington Beach, Palm Springs

We get that a lot here in SoCal. NIMBY’s. We got ours but you can’t have any!

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

Rongnongno Loc: FL

Ok next door thread, you are the ones posting there. It is obvious by your whining.

Quit it.

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

Hmmm.
I thought it was obvious he thought it was funny...

I'm not missing any goats either.

bikinkawboy Loc: north central Missouri

I’m sure those three goats are young males out looking for trouble. My mom raised goats for 53 years and knowing goats, I’d go check the local smoke shop. Goats love tobacco. They don’t smoke it but they do eat it eagerly. I’d look for goats with a pack of smokes folded up in their t shirt sleeve.

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

joehel2 Loc: Cherry Hill, NJ

If they were eating the weeds around my house, I’d let them be. 😊

StanMac Loc: Tennessee

We need some missing goats in these parts to keep the kudzu at bay. If you see them, send them south.

Stan

bwana Loc: Bergen, Alberta, Canada

We get a lot of that in our area as well. One of the biggest noise makers is a lady who moved out from the city about two years ago. She is now campaigning to reduce the development of rural land

bwa

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

Obviously they don't understand that "expansion" is inevitable.
Gotta put the people someplace.
One road between two towns near me (4 miles) WAS 90+% rural years ago, now it MIGHT be 25% rural.
It got developed.

DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA

I lived in a town that was proud of its rural character. Of course it was a bedroom community for the local city, where 90% of the workers worked. But there were a few farms left, so that made it rural (my definition of rural is any community in which more than 10% of the residents own at least one piece of heavy equipment [riding mowers have to be over 25HP]).

Since it was a bedroom community with a fair number of well-off individuals, they formed a conservation trust in order to preserve land.

There is only one way to ensure that a piece of land is left undeveloped: buy it and place a permanent conservation easement on it. Our town did a lot of that.

Having conservation land makes the remaining (developed) land more valuable, so there is reason to support those efforts. A study of the effect of open space on a town was done probably 50 years ago. The results showed that residential land consumed something like $1.25 for each $1 the town collected in taxes. Commercial land consumed $0.60 per tax dollar, and open space consumed $0.25 per tax dollar. The open space doesn't need schools (the largest local tax expenditure) and minimal police and fire protection. Although the original study was a long time ago, similar studies have reinforced the conclusions in more recent years.

Of course people have to live somewhere, and when the land becomes more valuable the people get priced out. MA and CT (the only states I've been living in recently) have state programs allowing developers to override some zoning restrictions if they provide 'affordable housing'. The program frequently arouses the ire of local residents because it brings in lower income people and packs them into small spaces. In my current town, there is a proposal under this program for a five story apartment building with something like 120 units to be built in a neighborhood of 2.5-3.5 million dollar single family homes. There are signs all over town decrying this project and there were political ads for the recent election trying to remedy this sort of thing.

NIMBY is alive and well here. Another example is a proposal to put up a cell tower in a residential area. For a town this close to New York City, this town has the worst cell coverage I have ever come across. Cell phone coverage (IMHO) is a public safety consideration, and more cell phone towers should be encouraged. 5G is being advertised all over this area, but we're lucky if we can get 1 bar of 3G coverage. 5 years ago we had a snow storm that knocked out power to something like 40% of the town. We were without power for 3 days. The only way to get a phone call to anywhere was to hike about a mile up the local hill to access the one remaining cell tower. Forget about internet. If we had an emergency, we were on our own.

Some development is necessary. Just to keep up with technology, and to ensure public safety. Some non-development is desirable, to keep the quality of life up. Everyone has different ideas of where the balance point is.

jackm1943 Loc: Omaha, Nebraska

They will eat on convertible tops also. My parents found out the hard way when I was little.