Thank you!
July cannot come soon enough.
AS long as we can see 'some' fjords it'll be better than none at all.
Ken
Haenzel
Loc: South Holland, The Netherlands
traderjohn wrote:
A nice picture. When I look at the picture those two cruise ships combined may have about two thousand people. What is there? I'm guessing those affected UNESCO sites will lose a lot of money and those dependent on the tourist income will be in world of hurt. This is one way electricity is produced;
Fact:
Average annual hydropower generation capacity of Noreway in 2019 was around 131 TWh, about 95% of total electricity production...
They don't need that nasty black stuff you're referring to...
Fredrick
Loc: Former NYC, now San Francisco Bay Area
traderjohn wrote:
A nice picture. When I look at the picture those two cruise ships combined may have about two thousand people. What is there? I'm guessing those affected UNESCO sites will lose a lot of money and those dependent on the tourist income will be in world of hurt. This is one way electricity is produced;
The Queen Victoria had 2,000 passengers, and the other cruise ship had 2,000+ passengers. Many modern cruise ships today hold 3,000 - 6,000 passengers. So, yes they will lose a lot of business.
In general, I’ve read where about 40% of electricity produced today is from coal. If we’re going electric for transportation I would think that number would have to increase to keep up with demand. Wind farms to produce electricity have exorbitant maintenance costs. Where do we get all the precious metals needed for car batteries? Where do all the old batteries go, landfill?
It’s going to take us a lot longer to go all electric than we currently think.
Beautiful shots Fredrick.
Don
Fredrick
Loc: Former NYC, now San Francisco Bay Area
PAR4DCR wrote:
Beautiful shots Fredrick.
Don
Thanks, Don. I mentioned to someone else that with scenery like that it’s not too hard to take a good photo.
Fredrick wrote:
The Queen Victoria had 2,000 passengers, and the other cruise ship had 2,000+ passengers. Many modern cruise ships today hold 3,000 - 6,000 passengers. So, yes they will lose a lot of business.
In general, I’ve read where about 40% of electricity produced today is from coal. If we’re going electric for transportation I would think that number would have to increase to keep up with demand. Wind farms to produce electricity have exorbitant maintenance costs. Where do we get all the precious metals needed for car batteries? Where do all the old batteries go, landfill?
It’s going to take us a lot longer to go all electric than we currently think.
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I know way too many people. About 7 years ago we went on a 12-day cruise on a ship the same size from Venice to the port city of Rome. Way too many people. Just before Covid, we did a cruise on Silversea. About 500 people soooo much nicer. I would think the 40% number produced by cola is low. I'm going to look into that...Thanks
Haenzel wrote:
Fact:
Average annual hydropower generation capacity of Noreway in 2019 was around 131 TWh, about 95% of total electricity production...
They don't need that nasty black stuff you're referring to...
Great. What about the rest of the world? China, India, and that whole region. Big polluters, where does that air travel to? What direction?
Haenzel
Loc: South Holland, The Netherlands
traderjohn wrote:
Great. What about the rest of the world? China, India, and that whole region. Big polluters, where does that air travel to? What direction?
What does this have to do with the current topic?
Haenzel wrote:
What does this have to do with the current topic?
They were going to ban fossil-fueled ships in their waters. Someone mentioned Norway's declining use of fossil fuels.
Haenzel
Loc: South Holland, The Netherlands
traderjohn wrote:
They were going to ban fossil-fueled ships in their waters. Someone mentioned Norway's declining use of fossil fuels.
Don't twist words. They
don't have to use coal to produce electricity as somebody suggested.
The cruise ships will only be banned in specific fjords, not "in their waters".
Electric powered tug boats will do to overcome this problem. Think in solutions...
Fredrick
Loc: Former NYC, now San Francisco Bay Area
Thanks! BTW, I have fond memories of NYC. I was born in Manhattan and grew up in Queens. Still love to go back for visits.
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