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Nov 8, 2022 09:08:04   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
I have three "atomic clocks" that maintain the correct time on their own. Unfortunately, it can take them three days to reset for DST and standard time. Mine are still on DST.

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Nov 8, 2022 09:12:11   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
I have one that I need to "relocate" when DST starts and ends.
--Bob
jerryc41 wrote:
I have three "atomic clocks" that maintain the correct time on their own. Unfortunately, it can take them three days to reset for DST and standard time. Mine are still on DST.

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Nov 8, 2022 09:34:24   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
rmalarz wrote:
I have one that I need to "relocate" when DST starts and ends.
--Bob


I thought of moving them, but I don't wanna.

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Nov 8, 2022 09:38:55   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
The only moving for this one is letting it know which time zone it's in. There was no setting for AZ, which doesn't change time. So, for part of the year it's told it's in Pacific Standard, then part of the year in Mountain Standard.
--Bob
jerryc41 wrote:
I thought of moving them, but I don't wanna.

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Nov 8, 2022 09:39:52   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
rmalarz wrote:
The only moving for this one is letting it know which time zone it's in. There was no setting for AZ, which doesn't change time. So, for part of the year it's told it's in Pacific Standard, then part of the year in Mountain Standard.
--Bob


I put those three in locations that aren't easy to reach.

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Nov 8, 2022 09:57:36   #
BebuLamar
 
There are talks about eliminating WWVB radio station that send the signal to your clock to save $27 million a year.

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Nov 8, 2022 10:05:13   #
whatdat Loc: Del Valle, Tx.
 
My wife bought me a nice watch a few years ago that is eco-drive & I guess Atomic. Automatically changes when DST changes. Didn’t last spring; so, sent it to the factory for repair. They replaced the movement & waived the charge after I told them my old Timex that I wear when mowing, etc. cost 1/15 th as much & was still ticking So, several weeks later, this weekend, was hoping that it would change automatically again. It did. Happy camper now.

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Nov 8, 2022 10:32:29   #
luvmypets Loc: Born & raised Texan living in Fayetteville NC
 
I just checked mine and it changed on it's own. Glad it did because I forgot confirm it on Sunday morning.

Dodie

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Nov 9, 2022 00:52:57   #
KillroyII Loc: Middle Georgia
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I have three "atomic clocks" that maintain the correct time on their own. Unfortunately, it can take them three days to reset for DST and standard time. Mine are still on DST.


We have one on our back porch that, best as I can remember, stays correct thought the year (EDIT, I was wrong)... unless we let the battery go dead. after the battery is replaced, we sit it in a chair on the front porch, just for a few minutes, and when it has adjusted to the correct time, we hang it on the back porch again.

just asked the wife if that clock was correct... she said i need to take it to the front porch so it will correct itself... so now, why did I start this reply...

Well, that is my late night 2 cents worth... or maybe 1 cent.

In case someone thinks we should leave it on the front porch... NO... we (actually, she) don't want it there.

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Nov 9, 2022 00:54:40   #
Laramie Loc: Tempe
 
I wish I could wait three days. My wife woke me this morning mentioning the clock. Fortunately a touch of the LCD button changes time zone from California to Mountain West.

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Nov 9, 2022 06:29:38   #
elliott937 Loc: St. Louis
 
Are they really suggesting it cost 27 million a year to run WWV? It IS the standard in time control. I live in Missouri, and by having the clocks (and watches) face the West, and reset is very reliable.

But, 27 million to run a radio station?

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Nov 9, 2022 06:37:20   #
nimbushopper Loc: Tampa, FL
 
I've got three also, two digital and one analog. They all change on different days, it all depends on how strong the signal they receive is.

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Nov 9, 2022 07:29:00   #
rlv567 Loc: Baguio City, Philippines
 
elliott937 wrote:
Are they really suggesting it cost 27 million a year to run WWV? It IS the standard in time control. I live in Missouri, and by having the clocks (and watches) face the West, and reset is very reliable.

But, 27 million to run a radio station?


Of course - it's government, and also not just one station.

Loren - in Beautiful Baguio City

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Nov 9, 2022 07:55:27   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
One of my clocks switched over last night. One down, two to go.

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Nov 9, 2022 07:58:00   #
Red6
 
elliott937 wrote:
Are they really suggesting it cost 27 million a year to run WWV? It IS the standard in time control. I live in Missouri, and by having the clocks (and watches) face the West, and reset is very reliable.

But, 27 million to run a radio station?


I would be surprised if the costs to maintain the station(s) were that low. These stations are quite complex with atomic clocks along with powerful transmitters covering several frequencies. These systems require lots of attention and maintenance, especially the antenna systems. There are three different operations going on, WWV, WWVH, and WWVB.

WWV covers 2.5, 5, 10, 15, and 20 Mhz. There are transmitters and antennas for each of the frequencies. Since these are low frequencies the antenna systems are very large and require lots of maintenance on a regular basis. This is the main station here in the US. In reality, each transmission frequency could be considered a radio station since each requires it own transmitter and antenna system. A commercial radio station usually has only one frequency which requires only one active transmitter and antenna.

WWVH is a twin of WWV but is located in Hawaii.

WWVB is a very low-frequency transmitter that transmits signals to set your local clocks. It transmits at the low frequency of 60Khz. Again, it has its own transmitter and antenna system.

It had been proposed to defund WWV, WWVH and WWVB in 2019 but that proposal was dropped. If the costs to operate these 11 radio stations was only $23 million that is one of the best deals the government has ever entered. These systems provide not only time but also frequency standards for many other radio systems all over the world. They would be greatly missed in many applications. But many of these operations are now being accomplished through satellites, often GPS satellites. However, many argue that depending on satellite transmissions so vulnerable to jamming or solar weather is a huge risk. The FAA has also rolled the dice on this issue moving much of the air navigation system to satellites with little or no backup.

These actions do save money but at increased risk. Solar flares could take out many of our satellites at any time, and China is boosting its anti-satellite weaponry and jamming capabilities. Without ground stations to back up these services, we could be very vulnerable.

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