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Oct 3, 2022 10:33:04   #
george19
 
Longshadow wrote:


+1? +2? (Obviously it would depend on the camera.)


From what I’ve seen on some Nikon products, about that.

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Oct 3, 2022 11:28:03   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
Per Fuji on the VBG-XT2:

“It is dust-resistant, water-resistant and capable of operating at temperatures as low as -10°C. It fits two batteries, bringing the total number of batteries to three, including the one on the camera, to increase the maximum number of frames that can be taken per charge to approx. 1,000 (Normal mode). In the Boost mode, multiple batteries can operate at the same time to give a boost to camera performance in continuous shooting, shooting interval, shutter release time lag and blackout time, while also extending the duration of 4K video recording to approx. 30 minutes. It is an accessory that can maximize the performance of the X-T2.”

Spec:
Mechanical shutter: without battery grip: 8 fps
with battery grip: 11 fps

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Oct 3, 2022 12:17:20   #
sigo
 
The Canon R5 fps changes depending on battery type and charge level so a battery grip could make a difference due to larger power supply that a battery grip may provide. Maximum frame rate in a R5 requires a LP-e6NH battery charged between approximately 60-100% or a DC coupler. Although the battery grip itself doesn’t increase frame rate, it maintains the necessary power threshold to sustain the higher frame rate for a longer period.

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Oct 3, 2022 12:17:52   #
photoman43
 
When Jim asked the question is was about the Nikon 610. For that model, the battery grip does not increase fps. For other Nikon DSLRs the battery grip may increase the fps depending on the battery added, etc.

If you shoot with a long tele on a ballhead or a gimbal head, the addition of the battery grip adds weight to the camera and MAY help balance the camera and lens on the head for easier shooting. Others buy battery grips to make the camera easier to hold and use.

LIke many photo things, the answer is "it depends..."

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Oct 3, 2022 12:24:38   #
JFCoupe Loc: Kent, Washington
 
Scruples wrote:
The purpose of a camera’s battery grip is to weigh it down, you begin to have second thoughts about your hobby.

Seriously, the battery grip holds an additional battery. Therefore more photographs can be made. It will not increase the speed of the camera. You don’t switch out another battery prematurely.

Personally, I feel that a battery grip is to impress others that you have the largest camera around. In reality, NO!


I have seen ads for some Nikon DSLR full frame cameras that state frame goes up 1-2 fps with a battery grip added.

I use Olympus EM1 MKII bodies, one with a battery grip and one without. When using the 300 mm prime or 100-400 zoom lens the grip helps balance the setup and feels better in my hands.

Also, if you shoot many images in vertical format, a battery grip with a second set of dials is a big assist.

Overall, in many situations, I find the battery grip a real plus.

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Oct 3, 2022 13:23:49   #
amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
 
Longshadow wrote:
I can't imagine how it would (might) increase the FPS on any camera...
The camera can only shoot & store so fast.


Au contraire, monsieur...

Some Nikon are able to shoot at higher frame rate when fitted with a battery grip:

- Nikon D850 can do 7 frames/sec on its own, but is able to rattle off 9 frames/sec with its battery grip installed.

- Nikon D300s can do 7 frames/sec on its own, increases to 8 frames/sec with grip installed.

- Nikon D300 can do 6 frames/sec on its own, or up to 8 frames/sec with grip installed.

- Nikon D700 shoots at up to 5 frames/sec on its own, but can do 8 frames/sec with grip installed.

With other Nikon there is no change in frame rate by adding a grip, including: D500, D600, D610, D750, D800, D810.

I don't know about Nikon mirrorless.

It was the case with some Canon film cameras, too. For example:

- Canon EOS-3 can shoot at 4.3 frames/sec without a battery grip. But when the grip (which Canon called a "Power Booster" or "PB-E2") is fitted, it can shoot at up to 6 or 7 frames per second.

- Canon EOS-1V used the same PB-E2 to become an EOS-1V "HS" or "High Speed" with a very similar speed increase. But it could do even better... up to 10 frames/sec... by instead using a rechargeable Nimh battery pack (BP-E2) instead of eight AA alkalines.

The Elan 7 and 7N (also "E" or eye control versions) also called EOS-33 and EOS-30 film camera did not see any increase in 3.5 frames/sec speed with its grip attached, even though it is from around the same time period as the EOS-3 and EOS-1V. The Elan 7 (and it's variants) are among the quietest film SLRs you'll ever find (I sometimes used on for wedding photography, for that reason).

AFAIK, no Canon DSLR or mirrorless increases frame rate when a grip is installed.

I don't know about Sony, Pentax, Fuji, Oly etc.

For many years I've used battery grips on my cameras for other reasons:

- Extended shooting time... extra batteries allow more shots.

- A more comfortable grip and secondary controls when holding camera in portrait orientation.

- Better balance with large lenses.

In addition to those reasons, I also used them on EOS-3 and EOS-1V for the increased frame rates... But have to say I used that very judiciously because blasting through entire 36 exposure rolls of film in 4 to 6 seconds gets really expensive, really fast! Plus you spend a lot of time just reloading the camera! Thank heaven for digital and memory cards that can hold hundreds or even thousands of images!

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Oct 3, 2022 13:30:38   #
Carl1024 Loc: Kaneohe, HI 96744
 
Jim Bianco wrote:
Does a battery grip increase the shots per frame on the nikon D610 camera?


yes, because you have a 2nd battery 2 bust it

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Oct 3, 2022 14:42:19   #
BebuLamar
 
amfoto1 wrote:

I don't know about Nikon mirrorless.

!


Thank you!
I think the Nikon Z's don't have the battery grip option. You either have a permanent one like the Z9 or none.
Besides none of the third party grips will increase the fps.

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Oct 3, 2022 15:17:43   #
nealbralley Loc: Kansas
 
I believe the D850's battery pack, with the $350 or so battery will increase the frames per second to 9fps. If you use the regular Nikon EN-EL15 battery in the battery pack you will get the normal frame per second rate, which is 7fps, no boost in speed.

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Oct 3, 2022 18:28:01   #
bikinkawboy Loc: north central Missouri
 
If current draw is what limits camera functions, then more batteries means more current and better or faster performance. If current draw is not the limiting factor then no extra performance.

For example, Diesel engines require more powerful starter motors to crank them over than a gas engine and therefore have larger or multiple batteries. Put a big diesel truck battery on a small gas powered car and you will see no difference other than being able to crank it over for a longer period of time before it runs down. Put a battery from a small gas powered car on a diesel truck and it will either crank over very slowly or not at all. Same applies to cameras.

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Oct 3, 2022 20:33:03   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
amfoto1 wrote:
Au contraire, monsieur...

Some Nikon are able to shoot at higher frame rate when fitted with a battery grip:

- Nikon D850 can do 7 frames/sec on its own, but is able to rattle off 9 frames/sec with its battery grip installed.

- Nikon D300s can do 7 frames/sec on its own, increases to 8 frames/sec with grip installed.

- Nikon D300 can do 6 frames/sec on its own, or up to 8 frames/sec with grip installed.

- Nikon D700 shoots at up to 5 frames/sec on its own, but can do 8 frames/sec with grip installed.

With other Nikon there is no change in frame rate by adding a grip, including: D500, D600, D610, D750, D800, D810.

I don't know about Nikon mirrorless.

It was the case with some Canon film cameras, too. For example:

- Canon EOS-3 can shoot at 4.3 frames/sec without a battery grip. But when the grip (which Canon called a "Power Booster" or "PB-E2") is fitted, it can shoot at up to 6 or 7 frames per second.

- Canon EOS-1V used the same PB-E2 to become an EOS-1V "HS" or "High Speed" with a very similar speed increase. But it could do even better... up to 10 frames/sec... by instead using a rechargeable Nimh battery pack (BP-E2) instead of eight AA alkalines.

The Elan 7 and 7N (also "E" or eye control versions) also called EOS-33 and EOS-30 film camera did not see any increase in 3.5 frames/sec speed with its grip attached, even though it is from around the same time period as the EOS-3 and EOS-1V. The Elan 7 (and it's variants) are among the quietest film SLRs you'll ever find (I sometimes used on for wedding photography, for that reason).

AFAIK, no Canon DSLR or mirrorless increases frame rate when a grip is installed.

I don't know about Sony, Pentax, Fuji, Oly etc.

For many years I've used battery grips on my cameras for other reasons:

- Extended shooting time... extra batteries allow more shots.

- A more comfortable grip and secondary controls when holding camera in portrait orientation.

- Better balance with large lenses.

In addition to those reasons, I also used them on EOS-3 and EOS-1V for the increased frame rates... But have to say I used that very judiciously because blasting through entire 36 exposure rolls of film in 4 to 6 seconds gets really expensive, really fast! Plus you spend a lot of time just reloading the camera! Thank heaven for digital and memory cards that can hold hundreds or even thousands of images!
Au contraire, monsieur... br br Some Nikon are a... (show quote)


Completely agree. I always keep a grip on my Canon 5D4 for all those reasons - better grip, vertically oriented controls when shooting portrait, and balance with long lenses. Since you can use one or two batteries, you can use just one and get all those conveniences with a small additional amount of weight or add the second for those situations where battery life is important, but there is no difference in frame rate that I can tell.

On the Fuji though, the battery grip is quite heavy compared to the weight of the camera, apparently because unlike the Canon, it has all the charging circuitry built in and you can charge all the batteries in the grip without removing them. Since it does increase performance and adds battery life (which isn’t great on this MILC), I use it for sporting events only.

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Oct 4, 2022 07:33:01   #
traderjohn Loc: New York City
 
Jim Bianco wrote:
Does a battery grip increase the shots per frame on the nikon D610 camera?

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Oct 4, 2022 09:17:24   #
Retired CPO Loc: Travel full time in an RV
 
User ID wrote:
Exactly. Unlike film transport, theres no physical job to "power thru". Frame rate is all about processor clock speed, write speed, and buffer capacity. More supply of electricity wont change those.


I'm afraid you are mistaken. My D500 specifically gives me 10 fps with the right power configuration. Less with the supplied battery installed in the camera body! That's a fact!

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Oct 4, 2022 09:26:26   #
Retired CPO Loc: Travel full time in an RV
 
Longshadow wrote:
I can't imagine how it would (might) increase the FPS on any camera...
The camera can only shoot & store so fast.


Imagine away, but the answer is yes, you can increase the fps of, at least some cameras, by using better/different batteries and or a battery grip. My D500 definitely does.!

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Oct 4, 2022 12:37:52   #
dyximan
 
Scruples wrote:
The purpose of a camera’s battery grip is to weigh it down, you begin to have second thoughts about your hobby.

Seriously, the battery grip holds an additional battery. Therefore more photographs can be made. It will not increase the speed of the camera. You don’t switch out another battery prematurely.

Personally, I feel that a battery grip is to impress others that you have the largest camera around. In reality, NO!


I use a battery grip because I have large hands, not as a status symbol, not all are as synical as you

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