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Oct 3, 2022 12:43:16   #
Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan
 
thom w wrote:
First I would like to see some reputable source saying the border is wide open, and what they mean by that. As I understand it, rather than flaunting laws, Biden reversed a Trump edict that was illegal. The asylum laws far predate Biden's term in office, so it is disingenuous to blame him. Besides, as a Christian, isn't compassion one of the traits you are supposed to have, or strive to have? Is a Samaritan going to embarrass a Christian again?
What law is it that you contend Biden is breaking. I've met quite a few "Christians" who have all kinds of negative things to say about mainstream media, and come to find out they don't even own televisions. You aren't one of those are you?
First I would like to see some reputable source sa... (show quote)


Watch Fox or Newsmax. There are a lot of credible sources who say the border is wide open.

I thought Democrats deny this is a "Christan" country? You want it both ways again?

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Oct 3, 2022 12:51:36   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
Fotoartist wrote:
Watch Fox or Newsmax. There are a lot of credible sources who say the border is wide open.

I thought Democrats deny this is a "Christan" country? You want it both ways again?


It isn't and isn't supposed to be a Christian nation. The person I was posting to is Christian, so I expect him to live by Christian principles, or at least make every effort. I'm not suggesting he does or doesn't. It's not up to me to judge such things. I disagree with Steve more than I agree, but I believe him to be sincere.

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Oct 3, 2022 12:52:43   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
Fotoartist wrote:
Watch Fox or Newsmax. There are a lot of credible sources who say the border is wide open.

I thought Democrats deny this is a "Christan" country? You want it both ways again?


Why when I asked for credible sources, did you come up with those two?

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Oct 3, 2022 13:19:34   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
thom w wrote:
Are you suggesting a quota on how many people can be seeking shelter so they won't die? What does any of this post have to do with your claim that Biden is breaking laws? We could be working in their home countries to make them more palatable to the people who live there. You may say that that isn't our responsibility, but I say it's a lot cheaper than fighting the problem here. I also think shipping some of the noisiest immigration foes to the countries these people come from would solve a lot of problems here. They probably wouldn't be welcome, but what does that matter. I realize this will, and can, never happen.
Are you suggesting a quota on how many people can ... (show quote)


Are you saying these 2 million are refugees?

One thing about the U.S., we didn't try to take over the world like Russia, or now, China. People like Reagan tried to thwart Communism, even if somewhat illegally because a Democratic Congress wouldn't support him. THAT was working in their home countries. But you think we should go down to Central and South America and fight their battles against gangs and the cartels? Yeah, right. One of the biggest problems is Venezuela. Why? Because it went socialist and the economy tanked. In 1991 it had one of the strongest economies.

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Oct 3, 2022 13:33:27   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
SteveR wrote:
Are you saying these 2 million are refugees?

One thing about the U.S., we didn't try to take over the world like Russia, or now, China. People like Reagan tried to thwart Communism, even if somewhat illegally because a Democratic Congress wouldn't support him. THAT was working in their home countries. But you think we should go down to Central and South America and fight their battles against gangs and the cartels? Yeah, right. One of the biggest problems is Venezuela. Why? Because it went socialist and the economy tanked. In 1991 it had one of the strongest economies.
Are you saying these 2 million are refugees? br b... (show quote)


Foreign aid isn't given because we are philanthropists. It's given because it is often cheaper and more effective than sending in troops. Your bible must be missing some verses that mine contains. As far as Venezuela goes, that wouldn't have had anything to do with their economy being based on oil, and the oil market hit the dirt, would it?
It's very unlikely that all are refugees. That's why they have court dates.

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Oct 3, 2022 13:37:01   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
SteveR wrote:
Are you saying these 2 million are refugees?

One thing about the U.S., we didn't try to take over the world like Russia, or now, China. People like Reagan tried to thwart Communism, even if somewhat illegally because a Democratic Congress wouldn't support him. THAT was working in their home countries. But you think we should go down to Central and South America and fight their battles against gangs and the cartels? Yeah, right. One of the biggest problems is Venezuela. Why? Because it went socialist and the economy tanked. In 1991 it had one of the strongest economies.
Are you saying these 2 million are refugees? br b... (show quote)


Iran had, until a short time before, held around 600 American hostages. Why were we doing business with them?

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Oct 3, 2022 15:52:13   #
Penny MG Loc: Fresno, Texas
 
Architect1776 wrote:
Twisting themselves into pretzels to cover for the POS occupying the White House.


That is funny!!!! Much like everything he says. Anyone taking him seriously has brain cells missing.

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Oct 3, 2022 15:53:31   #
Penny MG Loc: Fresno, Texas
 
thom w wrote:
First Reagan said we didn't sell them any weapons. Later he said he had been wrong, but it was only a few, they would all fit in one truck. I think, in the end, it was about a ship full.


Stuck in the past thom?

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Oct 3, 2022 15:57:50   #
Penny MG Loc: Fresno, Texas
 
SteveR wrote:
I know, it was an end run around Congress. Isn't that what Biden is doing at the border? Ignoring immigration law? If he wants to change the law to let everybody in, then change it. Problem is, he knows he can't do it, so he just ignores the law. If you're going to find fault with Ron, do the same with Biden.


Amen, Amen, Amen!!!

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Oct 3, 2022 16:00:39   #
Penny MG Loc: Fresno, Texas
 
thom w wrote:
First I would like to see some reputable source saying the border is wide open, and what they mean by that. As I understand it, rather than flaunting laws, Biden reversed a Trump edict that was illegal. The asylum laws far predate Biden's term in office, so it is disingenuous to blame him. Besides, as a Christian, isn't compassion one of the traits you are supposed to have, or strive to have? Is a Samaritan going to embarrass a Christian again?
What law is it that you contend Biden is breaking. I've met quite a few "Christians" who have all kinds of negative things to say about mainstream media, and come to find out they don't even own televisions. You aren't one of those are you?
First I would like to see some reputable source sa... (show quote)


A reputable source saying the border is wide open? Are you really that ignorant???? Geez what a STUPID statement. What don't you get in your little Electric Vehicle and come take a look yourself. I'm amazed ANYONE would allow you to vote after that statement.

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Oct 3, 2022 16:08:07   #
Penny MG Loc: Fresno, Texas
 
thom w wrote:
Why when I asked for credible sources, did you come up with those two?


the most credible. They also have PLENTY of video footage of the events.

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Oct 3, 2022 16:24:13   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
Penny MG wrote:
the most credible. They also have PLENTY of video footage of the events.


I'm guessing you just post here to make a few others feel better about themselves.

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Oct 3, 2022 21:03:24   #
FrumCA
 
thom w wrote:
Why when I asked for credible sources, did you come up with those two?

And therein lies the source of your problem. You refuse to accept information provided from any source other than something to the left of center.

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Oct 3, 2022 22:06:30   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
SteveR wrote:
If supporting a group fighting Marxist Sandinistas was the worst thing Ron did, then how bad could he have been?


To democrats nothing was worse until Trump came along.

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Oct 3, 2022 23:09:39   #
Wyantry Loc: SW Colorado
 
thom w wrote:
Exactly what immigration laws do you contend Biden is breaking?
Reagan breaking a law isn't excuse for another to break a law, but Republicans supporting Reagan breaking laws, and condemning Biden for what they contend is breaking laws is very telling as to what kind of people they really are.


Immigration and Nationality Act

The Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) was enacted in 1952. The INA collected many provisions and reorganized the structure of immigration law. The INA has been amended many times over the years and contains many of the most important provisions of immigration law.

The INA is contained in the United States Code (U.S.C.). The U.S. Code is a collection of all the laws of the United States. Title 8 of the U.S. Code covers "Aliens and Nationality."

The tables below show INA sections and their corresponding U.S. Code section. To ensure accuracy, USCIS links to the official U.S. Code prepared by the Office of the Law Revision Counsel of the U.S. House of Representatives.

Title I: General Provisions
Title II: ImmigrationImmigration andNationality Act

U.S. Code Title INA 201; 8 U.S.C. 115
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Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton sued the Biden administration Tuesday, alleging that federal authorities are illegally declining to take custody of immigrants subject to deportation who are about to be released from Texas prisons.



The result, Paxton argued, leaves Texas in a bind — forced to release "criminal aliens" or continue holding them in custody at taxpayer expense.

"President Biden’s outright refusal to enforce the law is exacerbating an unprecedented border crisis," Paxton said in a statement. "By failing to take custody of criminal aliens and giving no explanation for this reckless policy change, the Biden administration is demonstrating a blatant disregard for Texans’ and Americans’ safety."

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