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Sep 26, 2022 19:38:22   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
Pokey wrote:
Not sure, but I think I dated her sister in high school.



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Sep 26, 2022 20:53:22   #
Bo0mer
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Are issues with their used-equipment purchasing applicable to their sales of New equipment? Or even to their sales of Used equipment?


A few months back it was an attempt to buy new equipment, this last transaction was an attempt to trade in equipment. I suspect that they are having the same problem as everyone else, limited manpower trying to keep up with returning customers.

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Sep 26, 2022 22:23:36   #
frankraney Loc: Clovis, Ca.
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
When there's a Q&A and non-sensical attacks on an established leader in the industry, we sometimes need a reminder there are other options ....



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Sep 26, 2022 22:28:18   #
frankraney Loc: Clovis, Ca.
 
Manglesphoto wrote:
From who!!!
"Quote reply" Will eliminate this question


Especially since there are now three companies named.

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Sep 26, 2022 23:40:45   #
RodeoMan Loc: St Joseph, Missouri
 
OldSchool-WI wrote:
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I just checked out the site for "Abe's of Maine" and although I saw no bargains at a glance in either the new or used. I have not seen any bargains in real equipment from B&H, although I get their daily emails. I have bought frequently from them and they mail out from the bargain list quickly. Yet I have not bought anything above the $50 range as I see no bargains. Adorama and B&H were both regulars when there were photo mags with pages of supposed bargains. I presume Abe is also Kosher as someone pointed out Adorama was like B&H in that respect.-------------If you want to sell used equipment---post on ebay and you will at least get a handle of the market.------
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What do you mean that Abe is "also 'Kosher'" like Adorama and B&H? Do you mean that they are businesses owned and operated by Jewish people? If so, is there a reason this should enter into one's decision when considering where to make a purchase. Where I grew up in western Iowa, you would occasionally hear someone asking "is this kosher?" meaning is this thing we are talking about the "real deal" is it legitimate? Matters of religion was not even in the back of the speakers mind. Perhaps this last meaning is what you meant and your capitalization of kosher was unintended.

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Sep 26, 2022 23:55:39   #
RodeoMan Loc: St Joseph, Missouri
 
principalgrandpa wrote:
I'm becoming more and more turned off by the increase in quasi-political and misleading ads and come-ons that are appearing on this website. I think that the UH administrators should be aware of these spam-like ads and prevent them from being on this very good site. Just my opinion.


I notice the political bent of some contributors on all sides of the spectrum and how virtually any subject can turn into a political back and forth. All of us are familar with folks promoting their preferred brand of products. But I am not sure what you are referring to when you write about "...the increase in quasi-political and misleading ads and come ons that are appearing on this website" You go on to mention that you think the UH administrators should be aware of "...these spam-like ads" and prevent them from being on this "very good site". I agree this is, on balance, a very good site, but could you be more specific about what sort of ads you are seeing that are misleading, quasi political and spam like. I am not disagreeing with you, but only asking for more information. Thanks.

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Sep 26, 2022 23:56:47   #
OldSchool-WI Loc: Brandon, Wisconsin 53919
 
Capn_Dave wrote:
I have used both Adorama and B&H. I find they are very good companies and very reputable. I do end to go to Adorama because of the shipping. B&H uses FedEx and in my area they suck. Always late and sometimes they have even said it was delivered and it wasn't. I can understand if it was a once and done happening but with FedUp it is constant in my area. I don't need another hassel in my life


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Interesting comment on delivery services. I had a disappear with Fed X but never a problem with UPS. USPS can be very slow and travels all over the place from station to station. But the poor Fed X driver seems to have an extremely long route. So it is hard to blame anybody.----ew

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Sep 27, 2022 00:04:08   #
RodeoMan Loc: St Joseph, Missouri
 
This is a general response to this thread. One take away from this discussion is that it is critically important for a business to keep its customers satisfied. We have all heard the old aphorism about how you can win the battle but lose the war. Winning the war is prevailing against the customer over some complaint, losing the war is having that same customer recounting his unpleasant experiences with your company on this and other sites. This is something that any of us who have ever been married should clearly know from personal experience.

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Sep 27, 2022 00:11:11   #
JohnSwanda Loc: San Francisco
 
RodeoMan wrote:
What do you mean that Abe is "also 'Kosher'" like Adorama and B&H? Do you mean that they are businesses owned and operated by Jewish people? If so, is there a reason this should enter into one's decision when considering where to make a purchase. Where I grew up in western Iowa, you would occasionally hear someone asking "is this kosher?" meaning is this thing we are talking about the "real deal" is it legitimate? Matters of religion was not even in the back of the speakers mind. Perhaps this last meaning is what you meant and your capitalization of kosher was unintended.
What do you mean that Abe is "also 'Kosher'&q... (show quote)


He may have been referring to the fact that these companies close for the Jewish Sabbath and Jewish holidays, which may cause minor inconvenience sometimes.

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Sep 27, 2022 00:36:27   #
OldSchool-WI Loc: Brandon, Wisconsin 53919
 
RodeoMan wrote:
I notice the political bent of some contributors on all sides of the spectrum and how virtually any subject can turn into a political back and forth. All of us are familar with folks promoting their preferred brand of products. But I am not sure what you are referring to when you write about "...the increase in quasi-political and misleading ads and come ons that are appearing on this website" You go on to mention that you think the UH administrators should be aware of "...these spam-like ads" and prevent them from being on this "very good site". I agree this is, on balance, a very good site, but could you be more specific about what sort of ads you are seeing that are misleading, quasi political and spam like. I am not disagreeing with you, but only asking for more information. Thanks.
I notice the political bent of some contributors o... (show quote)


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I agree with Rodeoman. The moderator is very quick to cut politics and remove it. I got political and was immediately moved to the attic or removed completely sometime back. As for products---these are members saying this or that was a bargain. I like bargains, so is that spam. We all know about F:stops, shutter speeds, and ISO---so we cannot keep beating that horse?----ew

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Sep 27, 2022 00:42:06   #
OldSchool-WI Loc: Brandon, Wisconsin 53919
 
JohnSwanda wrote:
He may have been referring to the fact that these companies close for the Jewish Sabbath and Jewish holidays, which may cause minor inconvenience sometimes.


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Does Rodeoman have to take every comment as a Jewish--Anti-Semitic slur? Is there something unholy about being Kosher to him? Usually Kosher businesses are the best to deal with as they understand business and actually deal. So----relax Rodeoman---I was not slandering Jewish businessmen. ----ew

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Sep 27, 2022 02:30:19   #
RodeoMan Loc: St Joseph, Missouri
 
OldSchool-WI wrote:
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Does Rodeoman have to take every comment as a Jewish--Anti-Semitic slur? Is there something unholy about being Kosher to him? Usually Kosher businesses are the best to deal with as they understand business and actually deal. So----relax Rodeoman---I was not slandering Jewish businessmen. ----ew


Old School, you need to take a deep breath and relax. I have made probably a thousand or more responses to various comments on this site and none of them have been Anti-Semitic and more specifically neither was this one. And from where did you pull that nonsense about asking if there is something unholy to me about being "Kosher" My question was a fair one and after your slurs you answered it. You said that "Kosher businesses are the best to deal with as they understand business and actually deal" I presume that when you say "actually deal", you mean that they will negotiate a better deal for you. I am from northwest Missouri and am not up to date on how various things are referred to, I can see how certain businesses such as meat markets or food markets could be referred to as Kosher, but when discussing a business such as a camera store, we probably wouldn't link it to any religion. Anymore than we would talk about a Baptist car dealership or a Methodist flower shop. Certainly we wouldn't identify a business by the dietary practices of its owners. Finally I would like to ask if you are this pugnacious with the folks you interact with on a personal basis? You seem very quick to come to anger. I also notice that you always blame others (the Snarkies) for making you angry. When you do this, you are saying that it is not you who is responsible for handling your anger, but the other fellow. Old School when you give up self-control to someone else, you are ceding an amount of your own personal autonomy. I suggest that, instead of immediately launching a personal attack, that you take some time to craft a more measured response. Thank you.

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Sep 27, 2022 03:15:57   #
OldSchool-WI Loc: Brandon, Wisconsin 53919
 
RodeoMan wrote:
Old School, you need to take a deep breath and relax. I have made probably a thousand or more responses to various comments on this site and none of them have been Anti-Semitic and more specifically neither was this one. And from where did you pull that nonsense about asking if there is something unholy to me about being "Kosher" My question was a fair one and after your slurs you answered it. You said that "Kosher businesses are the best to deal with as they understand business and actually deal" I presume that when you say "actually deal", you mean that they will negotiate a better deal for you. I am from northwest Missouri and am not up to date on how various things are referred to, I can see how certain businesses such as meat markets or food markets could be referred to as Kosher, but when discussing a business such as a camera store, we probably wouldn't link it to any religion. Anymore than we would talk about a Baptist car dealership or a Methodist flower shop. Certainly we wouldn't identify a business by the dietary practices of its owners. Finally I would like to ask if you are this pugnacious with the folks you interact with on a personal basis? You seem very quick to come to anger. I also notice that you always blame others (the Snarkies) for making you angry. When you do this, you are saying that it is not you who is responsible for handling your anger, but the other fellow. Old School when you give up self-control to someone else, you are ceding an amount of your own personal autonomy. I suggest that, instead of immediately launching a personal attack, that you take some time to craft a more measured response. Thank you.
Old School, you need to take a deep breath and rel... (show quote)


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Dear Condescending Rodeoman. YOU picked out of the blue my comment about a photography store in Maine with the name Abe"s implying it was probably also run like the two already mentioned stores where they wear Kippahs and close for the Sabbath and Holidays and wear beards as orthodox. I was informed they have great deals at Abe's because they don't follow the manufacturer's list prices and import through other countries at times referred to as the "gray market." I did not discuss their business practices except to say I did not detect bargain prices myself. But I was informed they did not follow the mandated lists with US warranties but sometimes out of country warranties and lower prices. -----Who is the snarky condescending one?------So----go back to your hibernation and quit lecturing on who is arguing what. You are certainly the one originating this back and forth, not I.------------------

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Sep 27, 2022 08:28:19   #
Archiefamous Loc: Manhattan
 
Long time B&H buyer switched to adorama due to problems with pay boo and comenity bank

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Sep 27, 2022 08:33:27   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
Archiefamous wrote:
Long time B&H buyer switched to adorama due to problems with pay boo and comenity bank

Those who try to avoid lawful taxes pay for it in some way or another.

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