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Sep 26, 2022 12:53:56   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
BruceRoscoe wrote:
Charlie and I were in Vietnam at the same time. He was down south in the Delta and I was up north near the DMZ. I hope you enjoy this interview. We haven’t finished augmenting it yet and we may have a few more tweaks, but it’s to the point I wanted to share it. I hope you enjoy it. NEVER FORGET! Once we complete the augmentation, this image along with our other images go in schools, libraries, and museums. We don't rewrite history, we tell it the way it was!
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zJl5nOsCXP6TIF9Ct94g6c2Y9q6v9e2j/view?usp=sharing
Charlie and I were in Vietnam at the same time. He... (show quote)


Bruce, please use "quote reply" so we know just who you are answering.

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Sep 26, 2022 14:04:00   #
GeneB Loc: Chattanooga Tennessee
 
Stephan G wrote:
Just a clarification. The two groups I referred to were two groups of people within the services working with the issues. There have been many more. (Within the services as opposed to "outside groups" and vets.)

Regardless, it behooves us all who have been in the services to remember that we all were CITIZEN-soldiers, not just soldiers.

There is still the idea that the US Military is a mercenary group to be used as desired by those who are placed in "authority". History does repeat itself. It is not a mercenary group.
Just a clarification. The two groups I referred t... (show quote)


Amen, you said it perfectly.

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Sep 26, 2022 15:44:44   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
GeneB wrote:
Amen, you said it perfectly.


But don't forget the long history of immigrants enlisting because it gave them a fast track to citizenship. My company in Vietnam had 3 guys from other countries in it. One of them wanted to make the Army a career, so he checked first to make sure it wouldn't slow his citizenship, as he understood that the citizenship part came after discharge. He was assured that he could become a citizen while on active duty.

But the US military does not, nor has ever that I know of, have a "Foreign Legion" type mercenary group. You are either a citizen of a state or territory or an immigrant on your way to citizenship and not in any special unit. And for most of US history, if an immigrant dies in the service, you are buried as a US citizen.

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Sep 26, 2022 15:48:57   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
Stephan G wrote:
This is more of stagecraft than anything. The inclusion of his hands in the shot. There were moments that his thumbs did the windmills and they distracted my view from his face. Americans are not good at talking with their hands. There are some moments that his hands should have been in full view, but they were only in as half to three quarters of the hands. My suggestion is to move the view to include the full hands when he is making important points and move in when he is just generally speaking not to include his hands in view. I will say that it is more art than anything.

His pace of speech is very good and well spaced. His sight is also very well placed as he converses about the issues of actions in real life situations on the battlefield.

Just to mention, there were two groups that worked hard at "keeping it real", the GIs United against the War in Viet Nam and the Officers United against the War in Viet Nam. I, personally, have not kept up with them since the end of the UN Police Action in Viet Nam (1975).

Keep up the good work. It is very important that there are as many views available of situations in which lives are at stake.
This is more of stagecraft than anything. The inc... (show quote)


Vietnam was not a "UN Police action", Korea was, but not Vietnam. For the US and a few other allies Vietnam was undeclared and could thus be labeled a "Police Action" but the UN did not sanction it like they did Korea.

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Sep 26, 2022 18:47:07   #
Blaster34 Loc: Florida Treasure Coast
 
BruceRoscoe wrote:
Charlie and I were in Vietnam at the same time. He was down south in the Delta and I was up north near the DMZ. I hope you enjoy this interview. We haven’t finished augmenting it yet and we may have a few more tweaks, but it’s to the point I wanted to share it. I hope you enjoy it. NEVER FORGET! Once we complete the augmentation, this image along with our other images go in schools, libraries, and museums. We don't rewrite history, we tell it the way it was!
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zJl5nOsCXP6TIF9Ct94g6c2Y9q6v9e2j/view?usp=sharing
Charlie and I were in Vietnam at the same time. He... (show quote)


Excellent interview Bruce, congrats to Charlie, served honorably, well done and welcome home.

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Sep 26, 2022 18:49:12   #
Blaster34 Loc: Florida Treasure Coast
 
robertjerl wrote:
Nice portrait!

I was Army and in Qui Nhon that year. (DD214 says 2 years, 2 months, 2 days overseas time = Vietnam or transport going there Nov 66 to Jan 69 and a couple of leaves home and R&R in Toyko.)

This is for both of you:


I was just down the road from you Robert at Lane AHP, I was a gunship platoon leader with the 129th AHC, 1969....welcome home.

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Sep 26, 2022 20:02:18   #
Hereford Loc: Palm Coast, FL
 
Very good video for posterity. I also spent a very special year in Vietnam.

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Sep 26, 2022 22:00:59   #
Dalbon
 
Charlie will relive his experiences everyday for the rest of his life. I salute Charlie. Robert I was also in the Army and I was there in and around Qui Nhon during 1965 and 1966. I went back there a little over 2 years ago and everything has changed. The only thing that I recognized was the Leper Colony, which had far fewer Lepers then when I first went there. I stayed for a little over 2 months and traveled to 5 or 6 different cities and found the people to be some of the friendliest people I'd ever met. I also saw 20 times more tourist there than I did in all 6 trips to China. It was much more fun this time than it was the first time I was there.
Enjoy the day, David

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Sep 27, 2022 00:07:01   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
Dalbon wrote:
Charlie will relive his experiences everyday for the rest of his life. I salute Charlie. Robert I was also in the Army and I was there in and around Qui Nhon during 1965 and 1966. I went back there a little over 2 years ago and everything has changed. The only thing that I recognized was the Leper Colony, which had far fewer Lepers then when I first went there. I stayed for a little over 2 months and traveled to 5 or 6 different cities and found the people to be some of the friendliest people I'd ever met. I also saw 20 times more tourist there than I did in all 6 trips to China. It was much more fun this time than it was the first time I was there.
Enjoy the day, David
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Sep 27, 2022 06:34:53   #
Blaster34 Loc: Florida Treasure Coast
 
Dalbon wrote:
Charlie will relive his experiences everyday for the rest of his life. I salute Charlie. Robert I was also in the Army and I was there in and around Qui Nhon during 1965 and 1966. I went back there a little over 2 years ago and everything has changed. The only thing that I recognized was the Leper Colony, which had far fewer Lepers then when I first went there. I stayed for a little over 2 months and traveled to 5 or 6 different cities and found the people to be some of the friendliest people I'd ever met. I also saw 20 times more tourist there than I did in all 6 trips to China. It was much more fun this time than it was the first time I was there.
Enjoy the day, David
Charlie will relive his experiences everyday for t... (show quote)


I concur Dalbon, went back to Vietnam in 2019 and absolutely loved it. Although I was stationed at Ah Khe and Lane AHP, just outside Qui Nhon, we did visit Nha Trang, Da Nang, Haiphong and Saigon, I agree with your assessment, the country has changed and for the better. People were extremely friendly, loved Americans and one theme I noticed, they hate the Chinese. Nha Trang, Da Nang, Hoi An were packed with tourists while Saigon was amazing modern with beautiful sky Scrapers...Cheers, welcome home

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Sep 27, 2022 09:15:45   #
Stephan G
 
robertjerl wrote:
Vietnam was not a "UN Police action", Korea was, but not Vietnam. For the US and a few other allies Vietnam was undeclared and could thus be labeled a "Police Action" but the UN did not sanction it like they did Korea.


In 1969,it was "officially" referred to as "UN Police Action". But that is not the important aspect of it. It was never declared a war by the US Congress. Congress went as far as "taking back" the battle ribbon from the Ready-Strike units that were put together as back up for the forces in the "war zone" then.

The "transfer" from French control to the following group, I believe, was under the auspices of the UN. (De Gaulle>UN>Eisenhower) However, I am not going to find my reference material of the times. I can put my hands on my two Viet Nam travel posters (circa 1960), but not the other boxes lost in several moves over the years.

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Sep 27, 2022 11:25:38   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
Stephan G wrote:
In 1969,it was "officially" referred to as "UN Police Action". But that is not the important aspect of it. It was never declared a war by the US Congress. Congress went as far as "taking back" the battle ribbon from the Ready-Strike units that were put together as back up for the forces in the "war zone" then.

The "transfer" from French control to the following group, I believe, was under the auspices of the UN. (De Gaulle>UN>Eisenhower) However, I am not going to find my reference material of the times. I can put my hands on my two Viet Nam travel posters (circa 1960), but not the other boxes lost in several moves over the years.
In 1969,it was "officially" referred to ... (show quote)


I have to disagree, some referred to it as a police action, but most did not. The UN never declared it anything because the Soviet Union vetoed anything concerning the whole affair. They supplied most of the weapons for the NVA and VC. The only reason Korea became a UN Police Action was that the Soviet Union was boycotting the UN over their recognition of The Republic of China as China. The Soviets didn't make that mistake again. No more boycotts, veto anything they didn't like in the Security Counsel.

Vietnam joined the UN in Sep 1977 at which time the UN became involved in sponsoring the rebuilding and development of Vietnam and humanitarian efforts.

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Sep 27, 2022 12:29:09   #
John Hollis Loc: Kaufman, Texas
 
My brother was KIA 28 Sept. 1971, Puoch Long
Robert Allen Beavers, Spec5, 1st Cav.
This medal was in is belongings. Does anyone know what it is, and or what it is for?
The medal around the Captain’s neck caused a re interest. There was no documentation pertaining to the medal.
Thank you in advance.

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Sep 27, 2022 12:42:02   #
Stephan G
 
robertjerl wrote:
I have to disagree, some referred to it as a police action, but most did not. The UN never declared it anything because the Soviet Union vetoed anything concerning the whole affair. They supplied most of the weapons for the NVA and VC. The only reason Korea became a UN Police Action was that the Soviet Union was boycotting the UN over their recognition of The Republic of China as China. The Soviets didn't make that mistake again. No more boycotts, veto anything they didn't like in the Security Counsel.

Vietnam joined the UN in Sep 1977 at which time the UN became involved in sponsoring the rebuilding and development of Vietnam and humanitarian efforts.
I have to disagree, some referred to it as a polic... (show quote)


Just a final note. I had to understand the legal foundation for riot control actions back in 1969 to 1975. We have different pieces of events to go by.

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Sep 27, 2022 12:53:45   #
Blaster34 Loc: Florida Treasure Coast
 
John Hollis wrote:
My brother was KIA 28 Sept. 1971, Puoch Long
Robert Allen Beavers, Spec5, 1st Cav.
This medal was in is belongings. Does anyone know what it is, and or what it is for?
The medal around the Captain’s neck caused a re interest. There was no documentation pertaining to the medal.
Thank you in advance.


Please post a photo and may he RIP....

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