ON1 RAW 2023 - It's Coming! (Page 2): You got that right! I am also not a big fan of their "tech" support. Once too them 5 days to get back to me with a solution that was vague and did...

Vanderpix Loc: New Jersey

jerryc41 wrote:

But, but - it's better!

"Charging" is how they make money.

You got that right! I am also not a big fan of their "tech" support. Once too them 5 days to get back to me with a solution that was vague and did not work. I do like using 2021 as a plug in.

rlv567 Loc: Baguio City, Philippines

Vanderpix wrote:

Jerry you should not have had to pay for the midye... (show quote)

ON1 does NOT charge extra for the plug-ins, which are included as an integral part of the stand-alone version. If you want actual separate plug-ins for use with some other program, there will be an additional charge. As I indicated in another post, the coming upgrade is by far the most significant yet offered, upgrading an already excellent program. I should note, also, that on the very few occasions I have had to contact customer service for anything, the replies always have been most prompt and helpful.

Loren - in Beautiful Baguio City

jamesl Loc: Pennsylvania

jerryc41 wrote:

Weren't they just pushing ON1 RAW 2022.5? It seems to me that expecting people to upgrade every six months is a bit much.

Basic subscription is $90. You can get the Plus version for $150 for the first year and $180 after that. The upgrade buying price is $80. I suspect these guys are going to price themselves out of the market.

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ON1 2022.5 isn't an upgrade, it is an update of the 2022 program. Pretty much every June there is a x.5 or x.6 update to the existing current version and in September or October the next version is announced and the initial release a little later. There is only 1 upgrade each year.

Manglesphoto Loc: 70 miles south of St.Louis

jerryc41 wrote:

Weren't they just pushing ON1 RAW 2022.5? It seems to me that expecting people to upgrade every six months is a bit much.

Basic subscription is $90. You can get the Plus version for $150 for the first year and $180 after that. The upgrade buying price is $80. I suspect these guys are going to price themselves out of the market.

I have been shed of On1 for years, because of lousy customer service.

SteveZas Loc: Lemont, Illinois

jerryc41 wrote:

Weren't they just pushing ON1 RAW 2022.5? It seems to me that expecting people to upgrade every six months is a bit much.

Basic subscription is $90. You can get the Plus version for $150 for the first year and $180 after that. The upgrade buying price is $80. I suspect these guys are going to price themselves out of the market.

I’ve used On 1 in the past and still occasionally do. It was designed to be a standalone and “own it forever”. I’ve also used and continue to use, Photoshop. If one concedes the $9.95 a month for photoshop cc and Lightroom ( the approximate price for an egg McMuffin and a medium orange juice once a month in California), I don’t understand any advantage to On1 because of the continual upgrade fees. Photoshop is upgraded several times a year and that’s part of the package. It still is regarded as one of the best. For those that are proficient in both, could you explain what advantages that justify On1?

James May

Yes, I'm sticking with Topaz AI series that and the TK8 Panel for Photoshop All I need.

Vanderpix Loc: New Jersey

rlv567 wrote:

ON1 does NOT charge extra for the plug-ins, which ... (show quote)

Oh yes they do charge. When I purchased 2021 it worked and still does as a plug in and a stand alone. Not so for 2022. If I wanted it for stand alone fine, but to use it as plug in, for say Affinity, there was an extra charge. I am also not sure how well it interfaces with Windows 11 as it gives me rather sluggish mouse control. ON1 has made some great gains in the past few years and it can be a pretty good alternative to Lightroom. I do like what I see in the new version but for me they are not quite there yet. I also wonder if after all is said and done they will also revert to subscription only which seems to be the current business model of many companies now

Vanderpix Loc: New Jersey

SteveZas wrote:

I’ve used On 1 in the past and still occasionally ... (show quote)

Because you do not have to upgrade if do not wish to. Over the last 20 years I would have paid Adobe $2400 on subscription. I have paid about $900 upgrading when I felt I wanted to. Unless you really need to keep up with Joneses one may not feel the need to constantly upgrade. As a retiree that on a fixed income that $10 makes a difference to me so please refrain from telling people how to spend their money and I will do the same for you. ON1 is pretty easy to use and well laid out. I have expressed some concerns in other posts, but one can get away without upgrading for several years and still get a quality product. As a hobbyist this can save one from constantly paying for something that may only help them marginally. This up grade is as a big as Lightrooms latest and may help those who do not wanted to be beholden to a subscription.

rlv567 Loc: Baguio City, Philippines

Vanderpix wrote:

Oh yes they do charge. When I purchased 2021 it wo... (show quote)

You didn't read what I said, which is:

ON1 does NOT charge extra for the plug-ins, which are included as an integral part of the stand-alone version. If you want actual separate plug-ins for use with some other program, there will be an additional charge.

To have made it totally clear, I guess I should have said that all the capabilities of the plug-ins are part of the stand-alone version - you don't get them as separate entities. If you want them as plug-ins to be used with other software, then you pay extra, because for that, they are actually separate programs. I don't know now, but previously you could buy just the plug-ins without ON1, if that was all you wanted.

Loren - in Beautiful Baguio City

Vanderpix Loc: New Jersey

rlv567 wrote:

You didn't read what I said, which is: br br ON1 ... (show quote)

I paid for ON1 2011 as a stand alone and it could also be used as a plug in for Adobe and Affinity. Last year they changed that policy. For 2022 you purchased the stand alone but they wanted more for that plug in feature. I still use the 2021 plug in feature with Adobe and Affinity.

SteveZas Loc: Lemont, Illinois

Vanderpix wrote:

Because you do not have to upgrade if do not wish ... (show quote)

By no means was I telling people how to spend their money. My point was if one wanted to be current ( pure choice ) , the approximate $120 a year for photoshop and Lightroom seems comparable to On 1 and it’s continuing upgrades. If so, I wondered what the performance differences were between the two and which was in her better.
I started with Elements 2.0 went to CS 3 and after a couple of years went to CS 5 and stated there a couple of years after they went to subscription. When I did go to subscription the tools had improved substantially as well as speed. I went to On 1 a few years ago also, just to understand the system, and used both. PS was still faster and very efficient. I upgraded a couple of times and still didn’t find an advantage of significance although it is a good program. But now it seems that upgrades are routine. I just wanted to know the differences pro and con between the two. Where were the advantages with either. Ultimately with upgrades the prices really aren’t that much different assuming one stays current.

Vanderpix Loc: New Jersey

SteveZas wrote:

By no means was I telling people how to spend thei... (show quote)

I think what we are seeing with the upgrades is true competition between Adobe and ON1. Lightroom had a major change last year with their AI introduction and now ON1 is following suit. The thing is here one has the choice of upgrading or not. If one is a pro upgrades are often needed more so a subscription makes sense. For the hobbyist not so much. I have had a couple of versions of ON1 and sometimes I have had problems with controlling the mouse. I recently changed the performance parameters on my PC and now it seems ok . When I had a problem 3 years ago it took them 5 days to get back to me and their solution was very vague. I am really not sure how well ON1 interfaces with Windows since when Windows updates I get problems. Perhaps it works better on Apple but I know not. The nice thing about ON1 is it is kind of a combination of LR and Photoshop but not quite and it's processing feature are quite good but different than Adobe As a plugin for Adobe and Affinty it works well and in some ways it's easier to use for me than Adobe

wapiti Loc: round rock, texas

Been a longtime subscriber to On1. However, I'm not renewing since LR and PS subscription has been all that I use for the past several years.

Photec

If 2023 will process all 3 Z9 NEF RAW file types, I am all in for the upgrade. If not, I am already all set! Not being able to process Z9 compressed RAW files is an inconvenience, but not a deal breaker.

Prof M Loc: Corvallis. OR

From an email I received yesterday from ON1:

New ON1 Photo RAW 2023
Free Upgrade For You - Coming in October
We're excited to announce ON1 Photo RAW version 2023 will be available this October! As someone who purchased Photo RAW 2022 recently, you're eligible for a free upgrade to version 2023. You will receive instructions on how to claim your free upgrade when it's available in October. See the mind-blowing new features in version 2023 including Super Select AI, Mask AI, Adaptive Presets, Tack Sharp AI, and more.

Thank you for being an ON1 customer!