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Sep 8, 2022 23:08:19   #
Texas1833 Loc: Houston, Texas
 
kymarto wrote:
I disagree with much of what I am reading here. I always try to be helpful and pass on my experience and whatever information I have. If people ask for my settings not only do I tell them, but I ask them what they are trying to achieve and then try to help them find the way to do it with their equipment. Knowledge is power, and it doesn't cost anything.


Thank you for your response. You are kind. I have always found it very helpful or interesting to know settings used on a photograph to use as a guide.

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Sep 8, 2022 23:36:45   #
E.L.. Shapiro Loc: Ottawa, Ontario Canada
 
Let me tell y'all about something that makes me happy and brings much satisfaction. Here's the scenario. So...someone has a problem, an issue, or is havg problems with their photography. They ask me a question and wonder if I can solve it. I give them a simple, streightforward method, formula, tip, or trick (if you will)- nothing complex or overly philosophical. They take my advice and it works. They are encouraged because they have achieved good results and have gained some confidence.

Encouraging folks is an important part of teaching and helping. This gives them the incentive to experiment and try variations while knowing they have a basic go-to method for certain situations. Creative and resoursful people will expand their knowledge base and eventually form their own methods and solutions. Folk who are not inclinedto experiment and create their own interpretations and approaches, at least, will have some repeatable methods to apply.

Perhaps it is easier and requires less effort to simply tell folks to research elsewhere and experiment and find their own way. I think that kida defeats the reason to participate in a forum. That's my take- no one has to agree. My feeling is that folks can emulate your style or methods but that can't be YOU!

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Sep 8, 2022 23:54:11   #
wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Best observation of the entire thread!!



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Sep 8, 2022 23:56:41   #
delder Loc: Maryland
 
AGREE!

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Sep 9, 2022 01:56:36   #
linda lagace
 
I like the question what setting do you use but I always like to know why and if the answer makes sense I like to play with those settings to see what difference they make in my situations. I mostly take birds (and wild flowers amd weeds when the birds are not around ) but have learned that some exposures and f stops are good for some birds like egrets but terrible for other birds like ibis. And a lot depends on what the birds are doing and what the temperature and wind is like and what the background is like . I often mess it up but if I take a lot of pictures at different settings I can always go back and see what does work best. (and electrons are relatively cheap and easily disposed of ) I almost always go to the same place to take my pictures so I usually know what works there. When I visit a new place for birds, my pictures always come out better if I take a little time to think beforehand of how my background, lighting etc is different and adjust my usual settings for that. But with birds in flight sometimes you don't have too much time to fiddle with the buttons. My pictures do seem to come out better with auto focus but manual everything else but this year I am going to try auto ISO in Manual mode and see what happens. should be fun.

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Sep 9, 2022 02:22:44   #
linda lagace
 
Photography is both a science and an art and so there is a place for knowing what the settings are so you can deviate from them if needed to create something worthwhile..... And to tell the truth even engineering is an art and a science. So you start with the formulas and theory and move on from there to create new stuff. the company I worked for thought it would be a great idea to team up their chemists with their chemical engineers(!!!!!) to produce new advances. Well my PHD friend Dave and I argued for months about something I thought we should try because it would be so economical and so easy to do if it worked but he kept on arguing that it was theoretically impossible. (Unbeknownst to him I had been running computer models that showed our system was highly irregular and didn't necessarily follow the theory. ) Well we went to the lab and he said we would know my idea worked if the chemical changed from bright blue to bright green. We had to repeat it 3 times before he was convinced it really did turn from bright blue to green. We even got a patent or two out of this because we started with the settings and then experimented beyond. Everything in life is an art and science. The two go hand in hand informing each other.

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Sep 9, 2022 03:38:34   #
RodeoMan Loc: St Joseph, Missouri
 
kymarto wrote:
And if anyone is interested, the waves shot a 1/5 second panning with the motion, 100-400mm, handheld. The urban shots also 1/5 second, 24mm, from the hip, while walking.


Thanks and its not like answering the question put you in bed with exhaustion.

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Sep 9, 2022 03:41:55   #
kymarto Loc: Portland OR and Milan Italy
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Sometimes I arrive at just the right time when a thousand images will surely capture something.


Not if you are not set to capture them

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Sep 9, 2022 07:03:06   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
cdayton wrote:
There is a certain arrogance among certain responders on the UHH that borders on insolence. A sincerely asked questions can be politely answered and could be useful to another photographer. I raced cars at an amateur level for many years and competitors often discussed details such as tire pressures, suspension settings, etc. I would never have thought of being as dismissive as some are on the UHH.



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Sep 9, 2022 09:19:04   #
StanMac Loc: Tennessee
 
Manglesphoto wrote:
I have been hesitant to answer


Just say, “I shot it on Auto” …..

Stan

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Sep 9, 2022 09:33:07   #
User ID
 
delder wrote:
AGREE!

Thank you.

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Sep 9, 2022 09:34:48   #
User ID
 
wdross wrote:

Just stating the nakedly obvious .....

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Sep 9, 2022 10:11:56   #
mmills79 Loc: NJ
 
E.L.. Shapiro wrote:
Let me tell y'all about something that makes me happy and brings much satisfaction. Here's the scenario. So...someone has a problem, an issue, or is havg problems with their photography. They ask me a question and wonder if I can solve it. I give them a simple, streightforward method, formula, tip, or trick (if you will)- nothing complex or overly philosophical. They take my advice and it works. They are encouraged because they have achieved good results and have gained some confidence.

Encouraging folks is an important part of teaching and helping. This gives them the incentive to experiment and try variations while knowing they have a basic go-to method for certain situations. Creative and resoursful people will expand their knowledge base and eventually form their own methods and solutions. Folk who are not inclinedto experiment and create their own interpretations and approaches, at least, will have some repeatable methods to apply.

Perhaps it is easier and requires less effort to simply tell folks to research elsewhere and experiment and find their own way. I think that kida defeats the reason to participate in a forum. That's my take- no one has to agree. My feeling is that folks can emulate your style or methods but that can't be YOU!
Let me tell y'all about something that makes me ha... (show quote)



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Sep 9, 2022 10:50:42   #
boomboom Loc: Stow, Ohio
 
I just tell them and maybe it will give them a place to start, explaining it may or may not work for them. Sometimes a little help may give them a boost in learning. I have received help on this Forum to get me in the ballpark of settings for certain situations and then I fine tune it to my liking.

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Sep 9, 2022 12:19:16   #
btbg
 
E.L.. Shapiro wrote:
When I am asked "Waht settings did you use...etc., I simply revel them. Yes, it can be a silly, useless or irrelevant question and answer simply because that settg can be unique to the situation that I was shooting in, perhaps dependant on a particular process or post-processing procedure that would nullify that setting under another method, and, of course, various in equipment usage. On the other hand, however, my revelation may assist the person asking the question in gleanig some useful information as to the correct shutter speed to caputure action or cause intentional blur, the appropriate aperture to increase or decrease depgh of the field or to maximize lens performance.

I always encourage experimentation and trial an error in practice but a basic idea or starting point is not a bad idea.

Years ago, when I started my professional photography training, I was taught a good deal of foolproof methodologies and settings for the work I was given to perform. Oftentimes there was no time or tolerance for experimentation, however, creative people will use certain standards as guidelines and continually experiment, creating variations while foming their own style and ways of doing things. Folk who are not particularly creative or artisticallys talented will do things mechanically according to instructions or routine but may still come up with somewhat acceptable results.

There is no copyright on "f/whatever @ 1/whatever of a second" Using a suggested exposure or technique is not emulating or copy-catting a style or artistic interpretation- just like emulating the lighting perceptions of the Old Masters is not necessarily counterfeiting their work or passing it off as old masterpieces. Rembrandt and Gainsborough are my favourites.

To the OP- Your first enlarger was manufactured in my old hometown (Brooklyn, N.Y.) by the Federal Engineering and Manufacturing Co. I was abo to get one on the cheap that came off the production line with a bad paint job and I did set up a darkroom in the "toilet"! I could not afford a Rolleiflex at the time at 500 bucks (1957) so I settled for a Yashica-Mat discounted for $59.95.

I do agree that no matter how many lights are used, the results should seem that there is only ONE main directional light source. Simple and reliable lighting gear is best. Some of the newfangled stuff has too many bells and whistles and some fokls spend too much time messing around with their gear, in order to get it to work, and are distracted from concentrating on these subjects. Buff gear is fine and the company offers great service. I have had my Speedotron and Photogrnic gear for over 35 years and still in service. My last moonlight purchase was 12 years ago and the stuff is in use just about every day.

For me, exposure settings for me has become a combination of instinct, eyeballing, and muscle memory. I do use an exposure meter on occasions- making to make sure the strobes are working properly before long shoots.
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I agree. If someone asks me what setting I used on a photo I tell them. If they ask what settings I am using while I am out shooting I tell them. Sometimes I wonder why people ask, but I see no problem with letting them know what I am doing and if asked why I am doing it that way.

Since our photography jobs are very different, my approach is probably very different from yours. As a sports photographer I generally use available light. The one exception is wrestling when they are competing under a spotlight as when they come toward you there is virtually no available light and they become silhouettes without flash.

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