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Sep 8, 2022 10:40:14   #
leftj Loc: Texas
 
Mark Sturtevant wrote:
Is 94% of the total sample meaning ALL who were vaccinated, or 94% of the people who had adverse side affects? If the latter, you are clearly misleading.
This is a bit like making a vague reference to adverse affects of penicillin (and there are such affects. People can die from penicillin), and using that to try to drum up fear about antibiotics.
Here you pick and choose what to say without reference to how common are these affects after taking a mRNA vaccine. The adverse affects are very rare. ALL vaccines produce rare side affects. But meanwhile the diseases they are meant to target produces far more adverse side affects in a considerably higher percentage of people. Millions have died from Covid, so let's get some perspective here. And let's not forget about what may be permanent organ and brain damage, and the weight of "long Covid".

I'll take my vaccines, thank you. Early and often.
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You are a clear example of someone who reads and watches the mainstream press. You will never hear about the devastation created by the gene therapy so called vaccines. It has been well established that the number of deaths from Covid was severely inflated.

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Sep 8, 2022 11:36:14   #
cbabcock
 
pendennis wrote:
Your friend's death wasn't caused directly by COVID, because it is a secondary causes.


I died because I quit breathing, not because of the stab wounds.

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Sep 8, 2022 15:14:23   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
Mark Sturtevant wrote:
Is 94% of the total sample meaning ALL who were vaccinated, or 94% of the people who had adverse side affects? If the latter, you are clearly misleading.
This is a bit like making a vague reference to adverse affects of penicillin (and there are such affects. People can die from penicillin), and using that to try to drum up fear about antibiotics.
Here you pick and choose what to say without reference to how common are these affects after taking a mRNA vaccine. The adverse affects are very rare. ALL vaccines produce rare side affects. But meanwhile the diseases they are meant to target produces far more adverse side affects in a considerably higher percentage of people. Millions have died from Covid, so let's get some perspective here. And let's not forget about what may be permanent organ and brain damage, and the weight of "long Covid".

I'll take my vaccines, thank you. Early and often.
Is 94% of the total sample meaning ALL who were va... (show quote)


Exactly! More anti-science conspiracy theories which have done a terrible disservice to this country. You could ask your doctor for actual medical advice, but no problem, ignore real medical advice - natural selection at work. No point in discussing science, medicine or statistics with those that apparently know nothing about them and are unwilling to learn.

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Sep 8, 2022 15:22:44   #
leftj Loc: Texas
 
TriX wrote:
Exactly! More anti-science conspiracy theories which have done a terrible disservice to this country. You could ask your doctor for actual medical advice, but no problem, ignore real medical advice - natural selection at work. No point in discussing science, medicine or statistics with those that apparently know nothing about them and are unwilling to learn.


You can't be serious! With the disinformation that the White House, FDA, the CDC & WHO with the partnership of Facebook and Twitter you would call that science with s straight face?

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Sep 8, 2022 15:53:20   #
pendennis
 
cbabcock wrote:
I died because I quit breathing, not because of the stab wounds.


You aren't thinking systemically.

Death is a process, and things happen in a set order. A stab wound creates trauma to anyone of several systems. It may cause outside air to enter the pulmonary system, e.g. a "sucking chest wound"; it may cause arterial or vascular bleeding, and if not stopped would cause failure of pulmonary and cardiac systems; it could cause catastrophic failure in the digestive, renal, neurological, etc., systems, depending on the location of the stab wound.

Cessation of the respiratory system causes ensuing failure of several other systems - Neurological, failure to feed arterial/vascular to the cardiologic system, etc.

The underlying cause would be a stab wound.

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Sep 8, 2022 17:45:07   #
Just Shoot Me Loc: Ithaca, NY
 
cbabcock wrote:
I died because I quit breathing, not because of the stab wounds.


Thank You.
👍🏻

Ron

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Sep 8, 2022 17:49:59   #
Just Shoot Me Loc: Ithaca, NY
 
pendennis wrote:
You aren't thinking systemically.

Death is a process, and things happen in a set order. A stab wound creates trauma to anyone of several systems. It may cause outside air to enter the pulmonary system, e.g. a "sucking chest wound"; it may cause arterial or vascular bleeding, and if not stopped would cause failure of pulmonary and cardiac systems; it could cause catastrophic failure in the digestive, renal, neurological, etc., systems, depending on the location of the stab wound.

Cessation of the respiratory system causes ensuing failure of several other systems - Neurological, failure to feed arterial/vascular to the cardiologic system, etc.

The underlying cause would be a stab wound.
You aren't thinking systemically. br br Death is ... (show quote)


Thank you for clarifying that Dr. Obvious,
Had there not been Covid my friend would still be alive, there was Covid therefore my friend died from Covid, or symptoms related to, or by a neighbor who didn't wear a mask, or by a tree whose pollen caused to much pulmonary distress or...

Ron

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Sep 8, 2022 18:27:30   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
leftj wrote:
You can't be serious! With the disinformation that the White House, FDA, the CDC & WHO with the partnership of Facebook and Twitter you would call that science with s straight face?


I would call the amazingly quick roll out of a vaccine, the distribution and mass vaccination of over 100 million people in the US with an exceedingly small number of serious reactions and the low death rate/serious illness compared to the (poorly informed) unvaccinated a triumph of modern medicine. As for the disinformation from the Trump White House (responsible for an untold number of unnecessary deaths), which you mentioned, I will leave that discussion for the attic.

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Sep 8, 2022 18:40:52   #
MadMikeOne Loc: So. NJ Shore - a bit west of Atlantic City
 
Canisdirus wrote:
And it is worrisome...

To all who blindly followed what they were manipulated to follow...enjoy the fruits of your obedience and non questioning nature.

Hopefully it all works out for you all.


A peer-reviewed study in Italy found that 94% of people who experienced side effects after receiving mRNA vaccines had abnormal blood and contained foreign matter one month after vaccination.

From the study: “there were 948 subjects (94% of the total sample) whose blood showed aggregation of erythrocytes and the presence of particles of various shapes and sizes of unclear origin one month after the mRNA inoculation.”

The peer reviewed study findings are similar to those of a study by Young Mi Lee, Sunyoung Park, and Ki-Yeob Jeon from South Korea, titled “Foreign Materials in Blood Samples of Recipients of COVID-19 Vaccines,” but the Italian study has “much larger sample.”

One thing is for sure...what's done is done.
I wasn't that shocked that the majority fell in line with almost no real information...they always do.

Good luck.
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Not in the least bit concerning to me. My husband & I are both up to date on our Covid vaccines as well as the first 2 boosters. We are scheduled for our 3rd boosters this coming Tuesday.

To each their own, and best of luck to you.

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Sep 8, 2022 19:02:27   #
Just Shoot Me Loc: Ithaca, NY
 
TriX wrote:
I would call the amazingly quick roll out of a vaccine, the distribution and mass vaccination of over 100 million people in the US with an exceedingly small number of serious reactions and the low death rate/serious illness compared to the (poorly informed) unvaccinated a triumph of modern medicine. As for the disinformation from the Trump White House (responsible for an untold number of unnecessary deaths), which you mentioned, I will leave that discussion for the attic.


👍🏻

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Sep 8, 2022 19:07:03   #
Just Shoot Me Loc: Ithaca, NY
 
MadMikeOne wrote:
Not in the least bit concerning to me. My husband & I are both up to date on our Covid vaccines as well as the first 2 boosters. We are scheduled for our 3rd boosters this coming Tuesday.

To each their own, and best of luck to you.


My wife and I the same but our 3rd booster hasn't come around yet. Get Em while you can. And let those who don't want them make more room for those who do!

Ron

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Sep 8, 2022 19:16:18   #
pendennis
 
Just Shoot Me wrote:
Thank you for clarifying that Dr. Obvious,
Had there not been Covid my friend would still be alive, there was Covid therefore my friend died from Covid, or symptoms related to, or by a neighbor who didn't wear a mask, or by a tree whose pollen caused to much pulmonary distress or...

Ron


You're quite welcome, Corporal Clueless

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Sep 8, 2022 19:34:02   #
MadMikeOne Loc: So. NJ Shore - a bit west of Atlantic City
 
Just Shoot Me wrote:
My wife and I the same but our 3rd booster hasn't come around yet. Get Em while you can. And let those who don't want them make more room for those who do!

Ron


We had our second boosters 5 months ago - the day after they became available. We'll be double checking with the pharmacy to make sure the bivalent boosters have actually been delivered. In a bit more than 2 weeks, we are leaving for our first overseas trip since Covid started. Can't wait!!!

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Sep 8, 2022 20:04:32   #
leftj Loc: Texas
 
TriX wrote:
I would call the amazingly quick roll out of a vaccine, the distribution and mass vaccination of over 100 million people in the US with an exceedingly small number of serious reactions and the low death rate/serious illness compared to the (poorly informed) unvaccinated a triumph of modern medicine. As for the disinformation from the Trump White House (responsible for an untold number of unnecessary deaths), which you mentioned, I will leave that discussion for the attic.


You certainly live in a world of delusion.

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Sep 8, 2022 20:06:32   #
MadMikeOne Loc: So. NJ Shore - a bit west of Atlantic City
 
TriX wrote:
I would call the amazingly quick roll out of a vaccine, the distribution and mass vaccination of over 100 million people in the US with an exceedingly small number of serious reactions and the low death rate/serious illness compared to the (poorly informed) unvaccinated a triumph of modern medicine. As for the disinformation from the Trump White House (responsible for an untold number of unnecessary deaths), which you mentioned, I will leave that discussion for the attic.



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